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Is Manny Pacquiao afraid of needles? Is he really superstitious about needles? That’s what it sounds like coming from Team Pacquiao as this media blitz continues to damage Manny Pacquiao’s image.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. first came publicly with accusations of Manny Pacquiao being on “supplements” in September of 2009. This just so happened to be just before Floyd Mayweather Jr. was going to make his return into the ring after an almost two year layoff against Juan Manuel Marquez. The #2 Pound for Pound fighter in the sport at the time.
“I believe he’s on some type of supplements. I’m convinced about a lot of (boxers), that’s what they’re doing right now. Everybody should be checked a little bit more thoroughly. Sometimes people know what’s going on but they ain’t saying nothing.” Mayweather Sr. said.
The elder Mayweather also was quoted as saying “I don’t think he can beat Lil’ Floyd with steroids in him or not because he don’t have that kind of talent. He don’t have that kind of skill. I think they’re pushing Pacquiao a little too much, even if he’s got ‘roids in his body. The steroids aren’t going to make him no faster. It’s going make him relentless and hit strong, but that’s it. It ain’t going to put no knowledge in your head.”
A Week after Manny Pacquiao’s destruction over Miguel Cotto, Alex Ariza whom is Pacquio’s strength and conditioning coach stated that only he had knowledge of what goes into Pacquiao’s body, not Pacquiao but himself. Ariza also stated, “I am the one in charge, I’m the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes. I don’t give my guys any steroids. What I give them is all natural and its my own special blend of different things.”
He has no idea what he takes?
It’s my own special blend of different things?
Why wouldn’t Manny Pacquiao want to know what he takes? Haven’t we heard this same old song & dance by numerous athletes in various sports ranging from baseball to cycling? From Football to Track & Field?
Why are the representatives for Pacquiao downplaying the use of Olympic Style Blood Testing?
Why are they trying to spin to the public that a urine test is just as good?
In September of 2009 Freddie Roach was quoted in an interview saying “Manny is not on steroids, we have taken him a couple of times to be tested, and we haven’t tested positive yet. I think Mayweather Sr. is wrong, but all Manny’s on is white rice.” If that is all that Manny is on then whats the problem with the test?
I keep hearing excuses with no reason or logic coming from Pac’s camp. First it was a superstition, then it was he would be to weak, then it was he didn’t want to interrupt training with random test’s. I wonder why they would agree to NON-Random blood test’s?
Roach also said “I’ve done my homework, I’ve talked to experts, urine and blood-testing are almost identical in this type of situation. Neither test can detect growth hormones and HGH and stuff like that anyway. So, I’ll do all of the urine tests in the world, no problem. I’ll give blood 30 days before the fight or after the fight in the dressing room, I’ll give blood, but not right before the fight.”
*scratches head*……I don’t know if I should believe Freddie Roach or Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency?
Travis Tygart, said his organization has a checklist that it calls the matrix of effectiveness. It includes blood and urine testing, both in and out of competition. Blood tests, Tygart added, detect prohibited substances like human growth hormone, synthetic hemoglobin, designer EPO and blood transfusions, while urine tests do not.
Pacquiao has agreed to have his blood tested three times: in early January, when the fight was expected to be announced, 30 days before the fight and immediately after it. He also agreed to random urine testing.
But Tygart said the 30-day window would still allow an athlete plenty of time to dope with illegal substances not detectable by urine testing.
“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
Tygart also confirmed, that the test requires less than a teaspoon of blood. They noted the athletes who have undergone this type of testing, including Kobe Bryant and Michael Phelps.
Arum countered with Top Rank’s preference: using the testing procedures of the N.F.L. or the N.B.A., organizations that he said “deal with professional athletes.” The issue is not the testing, Arum said, but who does it and when……….*scratches head….again*
Why is Bob Arum opposed to arguably the best drug test administered in the world?
Why is he opposed to RANDOM testing? Why would he want test done but only if they are notified before hand?
Pacquiao’s camp said he had a problem with giving blood. Leonard Ellerbe (Mayweather’s advisor) then wondered why Pacquiao had tattoos if he has an aversion to needles. Arum said the issue was with the blood, not the needles.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that makes sense now..NEEDLES…..ahhhhh I understand now..He is afraid of NEEDLES….fearful of them to the highest degree.
So I guess this video below explains the whole NEEDLE Myth?
Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a recent statement was quoted as saying “I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don’t know anyone who really does,” said Mayweather. “But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same. It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night. I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA.”
If Mayweather is willing to TAKE THE SAME EXACT Olympic style test why won’t Manny agree? This situation is leaving the boxing world pondering the motives of Team Pacquiao’s refusal to comply with something that his opponent Floyd Mayweather Jr. has no issues about.
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276 Responses to “How long has Manny Pacquiao been terrified of needles?”
why should manny take the test, name anyother championship fight were they did this test, It’s bullshit. I hope manny does take the test cause if it is negative it just show’s how great everyone thinks he is. Additional blood testing just because floyd or his camp wants it WTF!!! ALI said it best “i see fear in the eyes of his followers” by the way GOOD ARTICLE!
They are just trying to win the psychological war. why not take the hair test randomly.. its more reliable.. only floyd will have to get his hair on his pubic hair.. how embarrassing.. hahaha
If you seriously analyze the true “MOTIVE” of PBF,It’s “CRYSTAL CLEAR”…
He does’nt want to fight a 100% FOCUSED,FERROCIOUS and well prepared “PUNCHER” like Pac on fight night for the “FEAR” of getting “KO’ed”……That’s why he is pushing for random blood test(up to 7 times)during “INTENSE TRAINING”and even on the “WEIGH IN”that will “WEAKEN” Pac,lose FOCUS since it’s already PROVEN in the Morales-Pac 1(where Pac lost due to blood extraction before the fight)…
Everybody knows the STYLES of both fighters…a VOLUME PUNCHER like PAC needs to be in TOP FORM and 100% condition physically and mentally..while PBF will just only “RUN”,potshots and be DEFENSIVE all night….
To settle the dispute,the most brilliant and most accurate drug testing available with US’s most advanced technology,”Hair Sampling”…..painless,more convenient for both fighters and most important:it wont distract them during “INTENSE TRAINING”..
That is if PBF or GBP truly demands for a clean and accurate drug tests
I think you’re missing the whole point. Manny isnt afraid of needles. Remember he never got those tattoos a day before any of his fights. He made it clear that he’s willing to have the drug test except the day before the fight. Random testing can include the day before the fight. That’s all he’s asking for. Now isn’t that too simple to understand?
after the fight a matter of seconds or a minutes get manny’s blood after mayweather is lying on the floor youre scratchin ur head cause you are fucking dumb to agree on mayweathers claim that the pacman is on steroids… i thought we are all grown up here c mon man!
to floyd and golden boy promotions crews, only the dumbest and biased boxing fans
will only believed to all of you! youre trully scared fighting the pacman, you are
the one who are destroying boxing and the people who loves this sport.
you a disgrace to all of us.
Why so sudden the whole boxing world is jumping into the bandwagon that Mayweather Sr started. Are you guys all fools. I think so. How many of you read about Manny being cleared for his last fights in Vegas. Manny isn’t giving in lil floyd brat’s ass demands because it is unnecessary. If we will base this NSAC’s testing thing that PacMan passed with doubts, then we should all doubt, including ODLH, FMJ and other boxers passing the NSAC’s test as well. Don’t be fooled by fools who were experts on drug pushing.(mmmm, i wonder who were the ones with history in illegal drug cases?)
hes not afraid of needles you moron.. he is willing to give blood 30days before the fight and right after the fight.. which is perfectly fine as if he is taking any illegal PED then it would still show up after the fight (which he isnt- innocent until proven guilty and since he has passed all tests before we cant say he is on PED).. he has a problem taking blood out of his body. The phsycological effect of having been drained before the fight is what worries him.. and floydjr talking about sportsmanship is a joke! where was the fair playing field when he opted to come 2pounds over the agreed weight limit when he fought marquez and instead of getting the weight off he chose to buy his way to victory.. quit making up nonsese becoz every1 know’s it is mayweather who is scared
PAC is not afraid of needles, he just dont want to be tested on the day of the fight because he said that it makes him weak.. So why not conduct the test on him after the fight? Ull get the same result.. Or get a hair sample from Pac, test from hair is more realible and accurate than blood and urine test
why would he justify the mayweathers baseless accussations? had he tested positive on some sort of PED before? if he is competing in the olympics and he refuse to be tested then we have a problem, but he is not. PBF don’t make the rules.
please I don’t think Manny Pacquiao been terrified of needles… he is NOT… it is just a matter of principles and beliefs that he does not want to be subjected to an Olympic style of doing the steroid testing… its just that he feels that Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Sr. are just being so Nasty and out of context… Manny therefore should make himself available and be subjected to those testing to probe himself… thereafter dump the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao bout… but go to court and sue the Black Ass of Mayweather, Jr. & Sr. By this way… those Mayweather’s will come down to earth.
You miss the point. It is not being terrified of needles, it is the act of taking blood itself. It is no BS that grown men pass out when their blood is taken. I have seen this myself several times. What more someone who risks his life in the ring and believes, whether right or wrong, that the procedure weakens him? He already agreed about getting it done after the fight. Why insist on doing it right before, when it won’t make a difference on the result?
And why start this anyway? What’s the reason behind it? Pacquiao has never tested positive, while several boxers like Mosley have tested positive and are not being asked to do the same. Just because he is incredibly good winning in several weight classes? Henry Armstrong is the original incredible weight climber, and he did this decades before performance enhancing drugs was even thought about.
And who is demanding it? A group who in their last fight did not care about cheating in the scales someone who was no more than a lightweight. Just paid $600,000. No respect for their opponent nor the integrity of the sport. It would be OK if the commission demanded this, and not only for this fight but for ALL fights from now on.
This is clearly a ploy by the Mayweathers. A ploy that disrespects Pacquiao’s greatness, the commissions that run the sport, and the sport itself that made them significant in the first place.
In law, the burden of proof is on dela hoya, mayweather, et al. It is not for Manny Pacquiao to prove his innocence. With dela hoya’s stature, he should know his law.
This is a matter of principle. Pacquiao is a principled man.
It is nothing but just total harassment from Mayweather’s camp. Pacquiao cannot be bullied. Enough is enough.
Mayweather won’t have problems giving blood coz it doesn’t really matter if he loses power coz he doesn’t really uses power (he lacks of) to win games. We all know it, he jabs and he runs. Whenever he knocks out anyone its coz they got tired from going after Mayweather and loses their balance when they get hit even with a weak punch. Now drawing blood from Pacquiao whenever wherever and at will will be a total disadvantage for him coz his power combined with speed is what wins his fights.
Mayweather is not insisting on it for a fair fight; he’s insisting on it to take away Pacquiao’s natural power advantage.
So stop scratching your head, you just probably need a dandruff shampoo
Did you notice Pacman when he was drawn out of blood by the doctor? He was wearing his shades. Why? Is it a means of overcoming fear? USADA reuires 7 blood tests and in random way. Why 7? Are we not yet in a high tech world? Sources says hair sampling test is more effective than blood and urine tests.
Pac agreed to blood testing, but he doesnt agree with how the chicken Mayweathers would like to dictate how it will be done. It may not be really about fear of anything for Pac. It is more of not getting pushed around and unreasonably at that.
Thinkers are doers. The Mayweathers may have cheated their way before so they think Pac is a cheater too.
Freddie Roach is right. NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN URINE AND BLOOD TEST. USADA is not infallible. Please make an effort to make a research first so that you will not scratch your head next time. Thank you very much.
Please read if you do not want to click the link. Again thank you.
Track sprinter LaTasha Jenkins is the first athlete to win a doping case against the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). She was charged with an adverse analytical finding after testing positive for the anabolic steroid nandrolone in both Sample A and Sample B in July 2006. She was banned from competition for two years. Last week, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) dropped its appeal of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) decision which exonerated her (”LaTasha Jenkins first athlete to beat the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency on a doping charge,” April 22).
A three-member arbitration panel ruled last December the testing of her sample, given at a meet in Belgium, was not done in accordance with WADA rules that require tests be run by two different technicians.
That broke USADA’s perfect record in front of arbitration panels, which was 35-0 according to the best available statistics.
To the question of Jenkins’ appearing to have won on a technicality, Valparaiso Sports Law Clinic director Michael Straubel had said, “[The arbitrators] set aside the test results because they were not based on reliable lab results.”
She was represented by the Valpo Sports Law Clinic with free legal assistance. The clinic is a pro bono service of Valparaiso University School of Law based on financial need. The Valpo Sports Clinic was founded in 2005; the clinic will have an on-site service for athletes at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.
Professor Michael Straubel, the Director of the Valpo Sports Law Clinic, has previously commented on the unfairness and inconsistency of anti-doping efforts in the context of the Floyd Landis case (”Sports Law Clinic director comments on Landis case,” May 24, 2007).
“It is important to eliminate cheating in sports and enforce anti-doping rules consistently and fairly, but the USADA v. Landis hearing is a rare public airing of the many tensions and growing pains that haunt the doping control process,” said Professor Straubel. “Those tensions include a bureaucracy that needs to prove itself vs. an accused athlete’s need for information to defend himself. The system is designed to be quick vs. the need to be thorough in order to be fair. It is a system based on breach of contract dispute procedures vs. claims and charges that are criminal in their seriousness.”
Professor Straubel added, “However, at the heart of the Landis case are questions about the reliability of a still developing science and anti-doping enforcement using that science. Floyd Landis and his attorneys are challenging a system which presumes the science is reliable and testing is properly done, but which then limits the information available to athletes about that science and testing. This challenge has clearly shown how difficult it is to put the testers to their proofs. Perhaps the larger result of the Landis case will be a system that is more self correcting and reliable.”
I Think Pacman doesn’t fear needles, it’s the blood. I also have that kind of fear. It’s more than hemophobia.It weakens me. How much more if 7 blood tests. The Mayweathers are not afraid of needle because they use it in drug addiction.
Hey…Who came from a drug user family?! Level of Playing field?! WTF! Floyd is not playing equal. Just look from his fight with Marquez…Sr is an drug addicted bloke and Jr. is insane. If Pac gives in to his demand the next thing Jr will asked is a Blood Test each of every round during the fight. Mr. Reed, Mayweather’s are law breakers and did you hear Pac’s family or himself indicted in any unlawful activities?
This quote from a news article in March 2008 might interest you because it proves GBP and the Mayweathers are making a mockery of boxing and its fans:
“Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires,” Schaefer said. “The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one.”
– Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy Promotions chief executive, on defending Shane Mosley from taking drug tests other than those required by the Nevada Athletic Commission for his planned fight against Zab Judah
As a matter of fairness and in an effort to save boxing, I, in behalf of level-headed boxing fans, appeal that you write a more incisive story on the shenanigans GBP is trying to pull off. Thank you and Happy Holidays.
hahahaha. another bullshit of an article produced by the ilk of Mayweather. Bye bye baby. I am Filipino and proud about being one. This is not just about blood testing but the ability of Mayweather to dictate the terms of the fight. It is bullying us- little brown people…But hey, good riddance. I would have liked to see you Gayweather to kiss the floor goodnight or better still have Pacman dismember your head… But you chickened out. Say what you want- all you Mayweather fans— it’s time to say good night and good riddance!!!
So you mean that Nevada Athletic Commission is not credible? If so, abolish it. That Commission was able to detect Shane Mosley and Manny Ramirez and many others including the most recently, Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. who was Pacman’s undercard fighter. It’s an insult to the Nevada Athletic Commission. This is professional boxing and not Olympics.
its not the testing or whatsoever.pac can submit to that.its gayweather making new rules that insulted team pacquiao.he is just too scared to be beaten badly by pacman!
Don’t make simple things complicated. Do the hair sampling test whenever you want it, everyday? OK. no more harrassment. Read Messi and Crank Funky comments. I smell conspiracy here.
So the GayWeather clan wants the whole world to know that they are all clean of drugs. Motherfucker all this black GayWeather clan can go to hell. They need to held this fight in Africa, so when Manny kill this bastard the rest of the clan will stay in Africa forever where they belong. Golden Boy promotions paid USADA to do the testing , figure that shit out. Ghetto my ass, your head GayWeather will be Manny’s trophy. Manny kill him without mercy. Show the world filipinos are racists too. There’s no such thing as a Third World Country, motherfuckers and who the hell is the Second World Country or the First World Country. Don’t let this GayWeather clan or any americans pick on any Asian people.
its a matter of principle you idiot… who are they to ask more than what the NASC required? pacquiao’s camp even agreed to give blood samples which is more than the commission is asking but for them it is not enough. probably if pacquiao give in to these random blood testing, mayweather will request again that the blood must come from pacquiao’s eyes to make things worst.
its a very good call for arum, you must call…
Hey DUmbwriter, your scratching your head beacuse of dundruff, take a bath so you clear up your fishy brain. LET ME RECALL U AGAIN,,, MANNY IS WILLING TO TAKE A BLOOD BUT IN A DIFFERENT AGENCY, Packy side suspected that Gayweather’s slide some millions for USADA to sabotage. AGAIN HE IS WILLING TO BLOOD TEST, Go ahead and take bath and read more news. Dumbhead / Dundruff.
TO All the fans who said Manny agreed to test up to 30 days prior to the fight…
Travis Tygart, said his organization has a checklist that it calls the matrix of effectiveness. It includes blood and urine testing, both in and out of competition. Blood tests, Tygart added, detect prohibited substances like human growth hormone, synthetic hemoglobin, designer EPO and blood transfusions, while urine tests do not.
Pacquiao has agreed to have his blood tested three times: in early January, when the fight was expected to be announced, 30 days before the fight and immediately after it. He also agreed to random urine testing.
But Tygart said the 30-day window would still allow an athlete plenty of time to dope with illegal substances not detectable by urine testing.
“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
SINCE HIS LOSS TO ERIC MORALES, concerns of blood drawing days before the fight, and not of needles.
pacman’s camp was late to re-apply his boxing license then, so he was blood drawn just days before the fight. he said he felt sluggish going on fight day.
anyway, the mayweathers knew this and.. you know the rest.
The Mayweathers are not in the position to decide or dictate terms. They need Pacman more the Pacman needs them. Pacman already agreed to 3 blood tests and the WBO belt is at stake. What does Floyd can offer? nothing!!! This is an unfair treatment. Racism? GBP-USADA conspiracy? What do you think?
Mr Q. Reed,
There’s something wrong with your logic in the blood and the needle statement…
Please read your article again…
I think you have a low Q, Mr. Reed!!!
AND YES…Manny agreed to take test that WERE NOT RANDOM Drug test’s!!!….NOT RANDOM…meaning YES he will take the test BUT he wants to know what days they are going to test…….
Mayweather has no problems with the RANDOM Test’s so why does Manny?….Even HARD CORE Pac fans need to wake up.
A tablespoon of blood does not make you weak…..
THE VIDEO ABOVE clearly shows Pacquiao “2 WEEKS” before the Hatton fight giving an entire vile of blood..I guess he was soooooo weak that he obliterated Hatton in 2 rounds…..but NOW he is afraid to take a DOPING TEST 30 days prior to the fight? Makes no sense at all……
Just make this fight when they already have the balls to face THE PACMAN. Manny is willing that blood be drawn from him right after the fight,drawing blood from him 24hrs before the fight doesn’t make much of a difference. So who’s avoiding who now? *scratches head*
Again, the pacman is being made a villain just like when he insisted his right as the one being challenged then by Ricky Hatton. Is it not that it is Floyd Mayweather who is challenging the champion Pacquiao?
Pacquiao is correct not to be pushed around from the venue to so many requests of PBF. Just wait and Manny the pound for pound king will give in exactly to what floyd wants and that is when the case against the father and son is filed. Wait after the elections here, you don’t know the mind of a Filipino. He is the champion and he should be the one giving the demands, don’t you think so?
YOU ARE A MORON, AND MUST SLEEP WITH FLOYD’S PICTURE IN YOUR NIGHT TABLE. REASONABLE PEOPLE DON’T AGREE WITH YOUR ABSURD OPNION, AND NO ONE REALLY CARES WHAT MORON LIKE YOU SAYS ANYWAY.
Manny is NOT afraid of needles, otherwise how did he get the tattoos? That’s Dumbass Point #1.
Manny is afraid of getting his blood taken a few days BEFORE the fight, claiming (wrongfully) that it weakens him physically. That’s what he said in his post-fight interview after his loss to Morales. He NEVER said he was afraid of needles. That’s Dumbass Point #2.
Lastly, Mr. Dumbass, do your homework first before doing your spins for your boss Golden Boy.
HEY PEOPLE….Shane Mosley PASSED EVERY drug test that was administered by the NSAC. Had it NOT been for an FBI Raid of the BALCO offices where they found check stubs from Mosley nobody would have ever known that Shane Mosley was a steroid user.
It’s amazing how many of you are allowing your love for a fighter overtake your objectivity.
and btw…
United States Anti-Doping Agency > NSAC any day of the week.
The United States Anti-Doping Agency test athletes from ALL OVER THE WORLD in EVERY SPORT…..
In a world full of steroid users and cheats I don’t see why people are attacking Mayweather for just wanting to show the public that both fighters are clean.
He is willing to undergo the same exact random testing.
It’s obvious that the Mayweather Camp is just trying to gain some sort of advantage over the Pacman Camp with this random olympic-style drug testing issue. It’s a good move, but the Pacman Camp is too smart for this. Why would Pacman agree to that if he knows that he would just give the opponent a clear advantage over him by submitting to their demands? It’s like fighting a fight while you’re handicapped. It’s better for Team Pacquiao to just walk away and find an opponent willing to box fair and square with no bullshit like this.
hey @PONKI…..its ironic you say “It’s better for Team Pacquiao to just walk away and find an opponent willing to box fair and square with no bullshit like this.”
so Team Mayweather wanting BOTH fighters to undergo the same test’s equates to not boxing Fair & Square?
What are Mayweathers demands? That a better drug test be taken instead of the typical urine test by the NSAC?
hey @ Ric Avelino….Mayweather has given in to EVERY DEMAND from Team Pac…
1) 50/50 split
2) 8oz gloves
3) 10 million dollar fine for every lb over the 147 lb weight limit.
All Mayweather has asked is for “Random” Blood test to be performed. Mayweather has been non difficult in these negotiations. All he has asked for his Random Blood test and Top Rank/Team Pac doesn’t WANT random test…..
they want to be notified when the test will happen. Doesn’t that sound suspicious?
just a thought..any substance (especially steroids) introduced to the body will have a positive manifestation if lab exams will be conducted right after the fight..in this case manny pacquiao agrees to comply to such examination right after his fight.. so what’s the difference between a pre and post examination or drug testings? difinitely none.. you can ask a doctor if you like.. morons and ignorant will insist that there’s a difference.. one thing more tattooing is basically different from blood extraction.. tattooing is just superficial while blood extraction is done intravenously.. capillary puncture won’t do..
The scareweathers are afraid of the ghost they created. It was scareweather sr. who first brought this up and they blew this thing out of proportions mainly to duck manny for good.
well,everybody is asking why this writer is favoring the mayweather and the Olden DOg PRomotion,simpy because this writeris in their payroll, pure and simple fact that everybody can understand.
A polypeptide hormone secreted by the anterior lobe of the pituitary gland that promotes growth of the body, especially by stimulating release of somatomedin, and that influences the metabolism of proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids. Also called HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES, somatotropic hormone, Also called somatotropin.
TO THE WRITER:
HGH is a natural substance secreted by pituitary gland. Are you saying that there should be no HGH to be found in his blood? Then recommend all boxers to remove all their pituitary glands….as simple as that…
If Mayweather was accused of being on PED’s and he refused to take Random Test would you be an advocate for him as well? Would you support Maywather in his decision to AVOID the random tests?
Boxing is governed by a body this body takes everything seriously to safeguard the honor of said sport.Now who the hell is gaymoney to change all of these. and some super stupid people are supporting it? huh?I REST MY CASE . THIS GAY IS WORST THAN I THOUGHT.
kindly explain the difference of blood test results before and immediately after the fight Mr. Dumbass writer and is it true that Team Pacquiao demanded for a $10M penalty if the results came out clean but then Team Mayweather refused? Kindly enlighten us please Mr. Dumbass writer
Man @ANDSO…..the random test’s are to ensure that no foul play is going on during training, which is the time a person could use PED’s. What don’t you get.
Are you seriously validating all of Top Ranks & Freddie Roaches excuses?
What’s the big deal? It’s not a big deal to you if a stranger asks you to say 1,2,3,4,5 and he would do the same? Why would you? What’s the point? He is going to do the same thing. So you would just do it? Really?
Team Mayweather is playing there own mind games for making an excuses to get out of his coming fight with Manny,before making an argument with random testing why they do not sign the aggrement first, coz only the boxing fans there making a foolish debate…
stupid article..why’d you post a video only to silence the part where it said pacquiao has always been doing this to protect himself from false accusations.. writer is clearly under the mayweathers payroll. waste of time!
HEY MR. REED Wat about this quote from a news article in March 2008 might interest you because it proves GBP and the Mayweathers are making a mockery of boxing and its fans:
“Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires,” Schaefer said. “The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one.”
– Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy Promotions chief executive, on defending Shane Mosley from taking drug tests other than those required by the Nevada Athletic Commission for his planned fight against Zab Judah
are you retarded? Pacman agreed to the testing but not under USADA, why? because they are in connection with the GBP! u base your accusations on mayweather sr’s comments. what credibility does he have other than being a criminal and a drug user? you might argue, he’s the best trainer. best trainer my ass! has he been nominated as trainer of the year yet? has he won it?
in defense of Schaefer…this article about Judah & Mosley was written March 25, 2008
this “‘Sugar’ Shane Mosley told grand jury of EPO use” article was written December 3rd 2008
Shane was lying to the public and media for over 5 years about his EPO/HGH/Steroid use…so of course Schaefer would defend his fighter at that time…..Shane lied to everyone
The Grand Jury INFO wasn’t leaked until after Schaefer made those statements……Schaefer just like EVERYONE else was not aware of Mosley’s Grand Jury Testimoy and the eventual truth about Mosley’s involvement with BALCO!!
ANDSO…the PED’s are used DURING training to gain power, speed, endurance, & muscle mass. Once it is 2 weeks before the fighter ANY fighters have already peaked and are physically ready to fight. What can’t you understand about that?
IF MANNY HAS NOTHING TO HIDE…WHY DOESN’T HE WANT TO DO “RANDOM” TESTING?
This writer fails to realize that pacquiao is Filipino, and in the Philippines, noone cares about steroids and health supplements. I cant really explain but whatever…Pacquiao’s never tested positive and all this crap is totally unfair.
thank you guys for letting me realize i’m a moron. i didn’t know that a blood test immediately after the fight is as accurate taken before the fight. i didn’t know that manny is not afraid of one inch diameter needle or 5,000 cc blood sucking – he’s just countering the mind games of floyd which is very obvious. i didn’t know that my lord floyd is using it as a scape goat to cancel the fight. now i know that my lord floyd is evading fighters that are dangerous to his “0″
Ok Ok Ok, Pacquiao got away with the NEEDLE (Tattoo) because his phobia is with the BLOOD. May I ask everyone what kind of sport are we talking about? When Pacquiao fought Morales the 1st time I think he have lost so many blood (you can see it in his face).
They should just both agree to the testing right after & not before the fight. But, i really do not think this would be a nice idea because at the end of the fight scareweather jr. will be out of blood coz he will be bleeding profusely all throughout the fight. lol
Why don’t you clarify your contradictory comment (to your quoted comment by Arum) at the end of your article first?
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In the video above, he does look like someone who is nervous to me – hence the shades. He alreay took it off awhile ago. Anyway, why not push for hair samples if the endstate is to find out if someone is doping or not??
Manny will agree to random testing if Gayweather clan together with Schaeffer, Tygert and Goden Alloy to fight Manny simultaneously on the ring, we’ll see who are the real cheaters after manny lash out his fury to these weaklings. Putang Ina minyo mga bakling!!
To answer your question.. Just think about a girl who is afraid of bloodletting and faints at the sight of it but has no qualms seeing her period or changing her pads during that time…
enough of the arguments and just do the hair test!
mr dandruff writer, pacman not giving in to gayweather’s demands is a matter of principle. pacman is the champ, the #1 P4P so he should dictate the terms not some chicken shit.
Pacman’s not afraid on needles (the dude got several tatoos). The reason he refused to do the USADA blood testing is simply because of principles. Pacman’s not gonna be bullied by Mayweather. He already agreed to blood testing but on his OWN TERMS & not Mayweather’s even though he DOESN’T have to. Blood test immediately after the fight is enough to detect if PACMAN’s on drugs or not.
I say GAYWEATHER’s just looking for excuse to avoid getting BEAT UP by PACMAN. HISTORY proves GAYWEATHER avoiding FIGHTERS that can potentially DAMAGE his UGLY FACE.
WHAT’S AMATEUR DRUG TESTING GOT TO DO WITH PROFESSIONAL BOXING??? LIKE ARUM SAID HE WANTS A WELL RECOGNIZED TESTING AGENCY LIKE THE ONE THEY USED FOR NFL,NBA AND BASEBALL.
IF I WERE MANNY, I WILL TOTALLY DROP THIS FIGHT AND LET MAYWEATHER LIKE (JUDAS) BE DAMNED FOR ALL TIME IN BOXING.
The boxing community rightnow cant just understand why the Pacman is doing all of this unusual stuff. Lets segregate it: Manny Pacquiao, current P4P king, current IBO/ring magazine junior welterweight champion, current WBO welterweight champion of the world, seventh world titles in as much as seven diffrent weight divisions, 2008-2009 fighter of the year, Time magazine man of the year, 2008-2009 athlet of the year, best KO of the year with Hatton (rnd 2), ranked # 13 of the top 25 most influencial people of the world, endorser of nike etc.,local singer and artist(WAPAKMAN now showing),charity movements,and many more….. How about Flambouyant Floyd Jr? Almost all of his acheivements are FORMER! Former five division world champion, fomer P4P champion, undefeated thru cherry picking and known for ducking of opponents, cheating thru disobedience of contracted rules (coming in overweight for advantage purposes), all time braggart/loudmouth athlet of the world,current “O” tilte, and many more.
Now you know why the PACMAN is doing this unusal things?: Conclusion, Manny Pacquiao just want to DICTATE all the terms because he has EVERYTHING and Money Mayweather has absolutely NOTHING at all.. All the mayweathers do is to ENVY and ACCUSE on all the Pacman’s accomplishments….
DE LA HOYA IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET BACK AT MANNY FOR HIS CASH ADVANCES AND FF-UP LOSSES, HIMSELF AND GBP BOXERS TO THE PACMAN. WHY SO SUDDENLY bs PFM IS TALKING FAIRNESS AND EVEN-PLAYING FIELD, IT WAS ONLY LAST SEPT WHEN CAME OVERWEIGHT AGAINST JMM WHO WAS NOT FAIRLY PROTECTED BY DLHOYA/GBP. IF THE WORTSWEATHER FAMILY HAS ANY OATA OF SALT OF REALITY THEY FIGHT NOW OR NEVER!
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Pac is not afraid of needles neither the “labaha” (without anesthesia) that used in his circumcision during his manhood passage. Philippines are the real home of the brave. I wonder if Floyd have undergone such manhood passage. Is he man enough? Mike Tyson is a small guy demolishing big heavyweights and his opponents never raised an issue about steroids. The reason was they were not afraid of this beast because they are warriors of men. Not a hype chicken.
wow! what a desperate and disgraceful move from the mayweather and goldenboy camp!!! theyre so cheap! hahahaha! is PBF and Golden Boy are what we so called all time great fighters? that blood sucking antic is absurd man in any angles! hahahaha! are the ignorant people saying that the NSAC(for pro boxer) who is a professional in their field for 40 years are incapable and USADA(for amateur boxers) is better? its like a doctor vs a fate healer man!!! mayweather and goldenboy clans are so very cheap! jealousy and pure insecurity are the true answers man!
So funny to see Dumb REED consistently answered all the comments, insisting on his dumb premises. But after francow’s comment 104, reminding him that he can be sued for his position on his writing, The DUMB suddenly becomes MUTE, now he is close to being a disabled head scratcher. PITY the fool.
Get your argements straight, Reed. Why are you bringing up the argument PACMAN agreed to take blood samples two weeks before fighting Hatton? So? PacMan only inhibition in the blood sample is not to take it THE DAY before the fight. Roach is saying the’ll be okay with at least 5 days before the figth. And what’s wrong with taking the blood samples IMMEDIATELY during the fight?? Floyd is just doing mind game with the PacMan, but he not going to bully the PacMan to submitting to his whims.
Floyd agreed to what?? 50/50 split, weight at 147 lbs and an 8 oz gloves?? So, how does Floyd want to fight PacMan at WELTERWEIGHT?
Hey Guys Pacman is willing to give blood after the Fight. It will give the same result as giving it b4 fight night! The Mayweathers and GBP are all Morons. They’re simply afraid of Manny. Its as simple as that.
hi mr. reed,
reading this thread i have noticed that you are only picking the points that you can defend and attack. I would like you to clarify the following:
1. Doing the testing after the fight:
Would this be any different as taking it right before the fight? I’m sure that if Pacquiao took something, this would come out in the test, right?
2. How about that hair test that the people commenting are saying? Wouldn’t this be a better option as it requires no drawing of blood?
I hope you can answer these questions and thank you for your time sir.
boxing is different sports than others, in basketball you have collide with other bodies but you dont punch them to win, same in other like baseball, cyling, NFL. boxing sport, test your indurance by banging your body to your opponent and winning by knocking it down by your power punch. not all people have the same though, idea, belief or principle. Mr. Mayweather if you think extracting blood wont affect you thats goood, but Mr. Paquaio have different thinking and belief, idea and principle also.
People like Mr.Mayweather have always doubt in their minds and their capability. They say they are the great, they are very skillfull, they are 2,3,4,5,6th dimentional name it and they have it, but still in this capacity that they have, doubt is still in their minds. They dont have satisfaction,I bet, if pacquiao agree to blood testing they will find again an alibi and excuses.
Mr. Mayweather if you have doubt in the agency of the sports you belong (boxing) and you don’t respect the organization handling this sports, quit boxing and find other sports where you can dictate the system.
If you are true warior in this sports face all your opponent if you dont want pacquiao beacause you affraid or whatever, challenge Mosley, Berto, Palvik and other guys same equal to your size. In this case you dont have any excusses to make.
Pacquaio and Roach claim that it would take Manny four days to a week to recover from a drug test. If USADA conduct 8 testings, that would be equal to 2 months that Pacquiao would feel sluggish during the training and on the day of the fight. Do you think Pacquiao will agree to the random drug test just to loose? Mayweather is finding another way to get an upper hand because he failed to get a wiggle room in the weight issue
Mayweather is a cheat not Pacquiao. He cheated Marquez when he came to the ring 2 lbs over weight. What does cheaters think? Continue to cheat and accuses somebody else of being a cheater. Obviously, Mayweather was thinking of cheating Pacquiao by asking a wiggle room for the weight. Since he will be fined $10 million if he comes over weight, he demanded Pacquiao’s blood as he know blood test can ruin Pacquiao’s training and performance
this article sucks!..obviously this writer wants attention!..this is nonsense article!…It is now Christmas eve and word has it Bob Arum has given you a deadline til the end of the day to accept the terms of Manny Pacquiao to make what is being considered the richest fight in history. And the reason for it is because you have requested that Mr Pacquiao take random Olympic styled drug test administered by the USADA. Where did this come from? Mr. Mayweather I have never thought Manny Pacquiao for one second has taken steriods to gain the success he has. In fact, and I don’t like to brag, but I have laced them up once or twice so I would THINK I know a little something about boxing. And I have a friend who is a personal trainer who takes HGH as well as steroids and I can tell you right now, this guy wouldn’t stand a chance in a boxing ring as a result. I don’t know any steroid using boxers who have gained an advantage in the ring from using steroids and HGH. I am not a rocket scientist, but I am pretty sure steroids don’t make a fighter a better boxer or allows them to take a punch on the chin better. I believe it was you who bragged that Manny Pacquiao was easy work. Now you are using ALLEDGED steroid use as a wedge issue. Need I remind you that Juan Manual Marquez came up from 120 and prior to his fight with you, knocked out the likes of Juan Diaz, Casamayor who are neither pushovers. Yet you never made a case against him. Does the fact that he was able to stop fighters you couldn’t or stopped fighters sooner than you could send a chill up your spine? And since when did the testing guidelines of the NSAC not meet your satisfaction in all of your previous fights that you decided to bring in an organization that only deals with amateurs? While no boxing fan is a fan of cheaters, and would not like the fact that Mr Pacquiao bent the rules in order to gain an unfair advantage, was it not YOU who came over the weight limit in your last fight also refusing to allow yourself to be weight fight night? Was it not you who forced Ricky Hatton to come up to fight at a weight even he said he had no business fighting at when he visited that weight class once before? You are no stranger to trying to gain unfair advantages Mr Mayweather, it I believe you have tried to gain an unfair advantage as far as public opinion is concerned while casting doubt on Manny Pacquiao while failing to disclose the fact that this REALLY didn’t become an issue until it was stated for every pound you come in over the 147 limit you would be fined $10 million. With the 35% tax bracket you are in on top of the money you owe Al Haymon and Golden Boy Promotions, you couldnt dare risk coming in at the agreed upon weight. And because of your inability to yourself fight with a level playing field, you are trying to turn the public against Mr Pacquaio by accusing him of something that originated from…..your father. But the clock is ticking Mr Mayweather. Your golden goose is about to fly the coop and your options for big money fights means you are now faced with the possibility of REALISTICALLY risking that undefeated record against someone who can take it.
This fight was never going to happen because Floyd was going to come up with every excuse possible to get out of it. He finally got out of it and will also lose alot of money from the fight AND the lawsuit. Bernard Hopkins, who is a partner in GBP, even said back in November that this fight was never going to happen. That’s insider knowledge about how much of a p ussy Floyd is.
Just make this fight when they already have the balls to face THE PACMAN. Manny is willing that blood be drawn from him right after the fight,drawing blood from him 24hrs before the fight doesn’t make much of a difference. So who’s avoiding who now? *scratches head*, “again and angain and again”
Quentin Reed… shut the hell up and get the real score here!!! No issue with needles, no issue with randomness of the tests, no issue with who will conduct the tests… these are all plain and simple posturing!!! pacquiao and arum dont wanna give in to mayweather’s demands thats it! GBP and scareweather wants to be the one dictating everything… DAMN FUCKING EGOS
Although I do agree with sportsmanship and just flat out taking the random tests, I have to point out that we are relying on the media to tell us why Pacquiao does not agree with taking random blood tests. Another thing is that blood giving truly does make you feel weak, and speaking of the 12 week or however long week training schedule that Roach wanted, giving up time because of a blood test is significant, especially when he calls for more time for a fight like this. Also say Pacquiao did take “steroids” or “human growth hormones”, he could stop using leading up to the fight, test negative for any performance enhancing drugs, and show up to the fight, lose (to what people believed would be his hardest fight), and get one hell of a payday to pay for his campaign as congressman. That would be an easier route, but no. It could be that he knows how essential this 12 week regime would be, and random blood testing could sabotage his whole work routine. Ever give blood, and work out immediately after?
MANNY IS NOT AFRAID OF NEEDLES IN FACT HE GOT A TATTOO RECENTLY ON HIS ARMS. THE REASON HE DONT WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE IT WEAKENS HIM. YOU ALSO HAVE TO RESPECT MANNYS DECISION NOT ONLY GAYWEATHER.
WHEN THE DOCTOR TOOK SOME BLOOD ON MY ARMS IT TOOK SO MANY DAYS TO SUBSIDE THE PAIN AND THAT IS NORMAL. MANNY KNOWS HIS BODY MORE THAN WE DO.
THESE MAYWEATHER CAMP ARE JUST A BUNCH OF LOSERS AND WHINNERS. IF HE IS A FIGHTER JUST FIGHT THE BEST AND NOT PUTTING SO MANY EXCUSES. NO WONDER YOU WILL NEVER BE GOOD AS MANNY.
dont worry guys, its just part of the script. All the bullsh1t that the Fraudweathers make, its all part in t he script of Pacquiao’s all time best boxer in the world story, because the bottom of all this is Fraudweather Jr. will be embarrased for after the fight for the Pacman will emerge as the victor, not the coward Fraudweather…
this is totally rubbish!!! the moron writer writes a totally stupid article… wrong facts… what is with the needle??? Filipinos eat needles like fries. BUt this monkey face gay run the Boston marathon.
this is stupid… pacquaiao agreed the blood tests 30days before the fight and after the fight.. but the blood tests schedule the mayweathers is asking should not be the day before the fight.. anyone would disagree with this proposal. and also the commission running the drug tests for athletes are in jeopardy.. if manny will agree with this.. the commission will be dissolved because the results it is producing will not be a basis anyway.. pacquiao is just pushed around by the mayweathers.. so enough is enough.. see you in the court.
mayweather team scared and dont want to fight pacquiao they’re searching pacman weakness..so they have reason to avoid fight this is bullshit happening in boxing history ..stop promoting this fight because is useless only one side want to fight one side dont want to fight..all boxing fan very upset
What is the difference between testing a day before the fight and one immediately after the fight if both the result will come out after the fight has been done? Nothing! So what’s the problem with floydie? Got chucken heart?
mayweather doesnt agreed but it is his request to do the blood test. He is the one requesting it therefore you dont have to say he agreed on the requirements because he is the one requiring it!
I do phlebotomy as part of my job for more than 25 years. I can tell you a lot about big guys with tats all over their body being scared of “blood draw”. It’s normal to see patients feeling weak and even disturbed right after giving blood samples no matter how little. Pacquiao may be one of them. If so, he must be protecting himself as he may not be able to concentrate in training and in fighting. I think one random test for HGH within 30 days of fight and hair steroid test for drug history is enough.
First of all why manny must submit himself to this shit,crap demands.He has nothing to prove in the first place,and what does mayweathers and GBP have to ask such a stupid test,they dont even have a single proof to justify such a crap.People should be more sensible rather than just jump into the conclusion.
MR. QUENTIN REED….ARE YOU OF THE SAME MISSING LINK WITH THE MAYWEATHERS….
WHY KEEP SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD?
GO TAKE A DAILY BATH AND USE ANTI-DANDRUFF SHAMPOO SO WON’T BE SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD…
AND BTW IF EVER THE FIGHTS PUSH THRU….YOU CAN DO A LOT OF HEAD SCRATCHING ONCE MANNY PACQUIAO PUTS FLOYD UNCONSCIOUS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE…BAANG! KABOOM! THERE GOES YOUR FLOYD…
it was to a large degree a CULTURAL misunderstanding on the pacquiao’s part.
pacquaio & company SHOULD HAVE FILED a law suit IMMEDIATELY against the mayweathers right after their very first statements to the media about alleged steroids use by pacquaio. because of the INACTION on pacquiao’s part, these allegations have now taken a life of their own, as this is just (sadly!) part of the american culture today. as a consequence thereof, the mayweathers have taken advantage of this pacquiao inaction in the on-going negotiations for their proposed fight. and it seems they’ve been successful in selling the crap to media, you for one
EXAMPLE:
here in america, let us say that out of the goodness of your heart and being just plain neighborly, you allow the next-door-neighbor to park his car on a part of your property continuously for five (5) years –and you do not charge any rent; after said five years, that neighbor can then LEGALLY! annex that part of your property where he has parked his car the past five years as his own property by filing a case in court. that is (simply) american law!
very few non-americans know this, and 99% of all orientals very much less appreciate the implications of such a law, and that is including pacquiao and the people around him.
UNFORTUNATELY also, for most filipinos, taxing the judicial system by suing someone just because he is, for lack of a better term, a nincompoop like mayweather sr. is, just does not wash well. probably more specially of that filipino is a professional fighter in the macho world of boxing. and so now, sadly, the filipino has been boxed into a corner quite unfairly by the mayweathers and the american media, who now begins to insist (insinuate) that if pacquaio does not agree to blood-letting, then he must be guilty of using banned substances.
well then so be it. its just a pity that boxing loses big time. yet again.
whats the problem with the test? OMG! Man you’re not doing your homework. PAC DON’T have problem with the test, Pac just don’t want it so close to the fight because it will weaknen him (exactly what Gayweather want because he is freaking coward to PAC). They can do the test a week before (as FR suggest) and immediately right after the fight. Come on man…. hahahaha….
GBP and the Mayweather are playing games. Schaeffer didnt even let Mosley do the test. And you didnt mention the test immediately right after the fight which Manny says he will do plus urine sample at any time. Let NSAC decide what needs to be done and I’m sure Manny will agree regardless of what type of test they will want to do. He’s just pissed off at what GBP and the Mayweathers wanted to do. Looks like they are really afraid of the LITTLE MAN.
it has something to do with the psychological effect (for pacquiao) when giving out blood… but anyway, pacman agreed to have a blood test after the fight so i think it does not matter because the result will not change… it’s kind of frustrating because mayweather camp & golden boy promotions are making a lot of issues not to make this fight happen… no doubt, mayweather is scared of pacman… i thought it was an easy fight for him? but there a lot of excuses going on… just in case the fight goes on, it’s all about pacquiao because he is mentally ready while mayweather has a lot of reasons not to continue the fight
This is a matter of principle. If you allowed anyone to dictate what they want on you (knowing fully well that they just want to screw you),then you are a less human being. Last year, Golden Boy Promotion did not allowed Moseley to take the drug test. So, why are they demanding Manny to take the drug test which they refused to comply? Be a man of principle. If not,you will be miserable for the rest of your life.
Hey! Quentin Reed , this is a very,very good article that you wrote. One of the best that I have read in a long time. Obviously, the negative comments that people are making is an attempt to degrade and dehumanize you.Ignore them ! Your article is one of the best that I have read in quite some time and you make some very good and valid points !
Hey Quentin Reed this is a very good article that you wrote it makes a lot of common sense and has some excellent points. Obviously, the animalistic and negative comments that people are making about you is an attempt to degrade and dehumanize you because you wrote such a great article. Ignore the negative comments this article is very good and logical !
its not the needle that pac dosent like its the timing of blood extraction. it will lossen his power. just like samson in the bible where his power comes from his hair.pac power loses if blood will be forcibly extracted by needle that is his contention and you can not take that away from him. golden boy has an ax to grind with thats why he challenge pac to a fight at 147lb but he was humillated.
IF YOUR OPPONENT SAYS SO.. WOULD YOU COMPLY??? EVEN IF OUTSIDE THE RULES???… THEN YOU ARE A FOKN IDIOT!!! YOU JUST CONCEDE TO YOUR OPPONENT ALREADY… THATS THE GAME THEY ARE PLAYING RIGHT NOW… I DONT KNOW WHY A LOT OF WRITERS INCLUDING THIS. ARE SO GULLIBLE
The reason why Manny and Roach doesn’t want blood testing during the training is because it disrupts it. if ur an athelete who trains 8 hours a day plus a few hours of planning the fight, follow strict schedule of sleeping from 8pm til 5am, imagine USADA knocking on your door and waking you up for blood testing at 12mn!!! do you think you’ll still be able continue sleeping after that? would you still be able to take your 1 hour morning run and continue training all throughout the day. the issue here is not the blood testing but the ulterior motives why Mayweather’s camp wants it. they have tried to duck Manny ever since they felt that he’s out to get PBF. first, they scheduled an early fight hoping that PAC won’t agree, then the money split, weight, and glove size which all PAC agreed upon to. now they would want to HIRE a third party drug testing company to take blood samples at any time they want? that is very ridiculous!! What is WBO doing in this matter? WBC Pres. Jose Sulayman said in his recent interview “I believe that I am not informed of the matter reason for this interview, as I do not understand the meaning of outside agencies ,,,,,,, but if the meaning is to bring any other authority different than the State Commission or the corresponding sanctioning body, the WBC would never accept it as we are the organization certifying our world titles and whoever wants to fight for a WBC title, he has to stand by our rules and regulations.” If the fight will be sanctioned by WBC Mayweather will have no more excuses to avoid this fight. It is very clear that Mayweather is chickening his way out of danger. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the Greatest Coward and Disgrace in Boxing History! That’s Gayweather for you all!!…
the author(quentin reed) is a dumb ass.,fucking dumb ass.if pacquiao is afraid of needles,then why did pac agree to let his blood examine after the fight?some other athletes complaining for these type of drug test coz it weakens them..click this link for the athletes quotes..http://www.examiner.com/x-10947-Indianapolis-Fight-Sports-Examiner~y2009m12d25-Fairplay-Propaganda-Fear-Racism-Examining-the-FACTS-regarding-Mayweathers-steroids-accusations
Please stop using these blood testing argument in protecting MoneyMay. Save your face! think before you write. You are making it appear that Floyd Jr is ducking Pacquiao.
Everybody knows that there is NO DIFFERENCE between blood testing a day before the fight and one immediately after the fight (in the locker room).
Hey @ Sanji what in the hell does this mean ..”The reason why Manny and Roach doesn’t want blood testing during the training is because it disrupts it. if ur an athelete who trains 8 hours a day plus a few hours of planning the fight, follow strict schedule of sleeping from 8pm til 5am, imagine USADA knocking on your door and waking you up for blood testing at 12mn!!!”
^^^^^^^LMAO^^^^^^^^
So Manny can shoot an entire movie during training camp but he cant draw a little blood?
(from n of the comments) …I think you’re missing the whole point. Manny isnt afraid of needles. Remember he never got those tattoos a day before any of his fights. He made it clear that he’s willing to have the drug test except the day before the fight. Random testing can include the day before the fight. That’s all he’s asking for. Now isn’t that too simple to understand? *!@ scratch Your head writer!@#
…period! If u aint taking steroids just take the fucking test! If manny dont want his name and legacy ruined just take the fucking test! I wuld prove floyd wrong and take the test right? unless?????? Im takin steroids??????????? Manny is taking steroids that urine test cant detect for all you dumb ass pacman dick riders!!!!!!
Hmn… Mr. Writer, you sound very fishy in your article, biased and not objective.
1. Blood was taken 2wks before Pacman’s fight… 2WEEKS, not 2 DAYS or 1 DAY or Weight-In.
2. Random testing means –>>RAMDOM! Any day, even the day of the fight, get it? That is why Pacman does not want random, get it again?
3. What is the difference in taking the blood samples right after the fight or let’s say ramdomly, 1 day before the fight? Wont you detect your PEDS on both? Well, for Pacman, he will be waek if blood is taken from him a day before the fight. This is what Junior knows..hehehe.
4. So why did not ask JMM for the same RANDOM test before they fight? Because Junior is AFRAID of Pacman..!!
5. Why did you write an article that is biased? Bacause you are PAID by Junior? Now refute that… HAHAHAHA!
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I am amazed how so many of you people allow your ingrained racism to void your commonsense. If you don’t have anything to hide, you take the damn test whenever it’s requested; make your millions of dollars and go home. Mayweather’s simple request for a “level playing field”, is logical. But then again you all know America was never designed for all races to compete on a level playing field. So then you hide behind your illogical flip-flop (pun intended) reasoning.
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December 24th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
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December 25th, 2009 at 3:27 am
hes not afraid of needles you moron.. he is willing to give blood 30days before the fight and right after the fight.. which is perfectly fine as if he is taking any illegal PED then it would still show up after the fight (which he isnt- innocent until proven guilty and since he has passed all tests before we cant say he is on PED).. he has a problem taking blood out of his body. The phsycological effect of having been drained before the fight is what worries him.. and floydjr talking about sportsmanship is a joke! where was the fair playing field when he opted to come 2pounds over the agreed weight limit when he fought marquez and instead of getting the weight off he chose to buy his way to victory.. quit making up nonsese becoz every1 know’s it is mayweather who is scared
December 25th, 2009 at 3:30 am
PAC is not afraid of needles, he just dont want to be tested on the day of the fight because he said that it makes him weak.. So why not conduct the test on him after the fight? Ull get the same result.. Or get a hair sample from Pac, test from hair is more realible and accurate than blood and urine test
December 25th, 2009 at 3:31 am
I can’t believe this moron has guts to discredit Manny.
Look its the principle of WHY!!! why do they require it before why not after the fight.
PBF is a fcuking coward.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:32 am
why would he justify the mayweathers baseless accussations? had he tested positive on some sort of PED before? if he is competing in the olympics and he refuse to be tested then we have a problem, but he is not. PBF don’t make the rules.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:36 am
please I don’t think Manny Pacquiao been terrified of needles… he is NOT… it is just a matter of principles and beliefs that he does not want to be subjected to an Olympic style of doing the steroid testing… its just that he feels that Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Sr. are just being so Nasty and out of context… Manny therefore should make himself available and be subjected to those testing to probe himself… thereafter dump the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao bout… but go to court and sue the Black Ass of Mayweather, Jr. & Sr. By this way… those Mayweather’s will come down to earth.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:38 am
You miss the point. It is not being terrified of needles, it is the act of taking blood itself. It is no BS that grown men pass out when their blood is taken. I have seen this myself several times. What more someone who risks his life in the ring and believes, whether right or wrong, that the procedure weakens him? He already agreed about getting it done after the fight. Why insist on doing it right before, when it won’t make a difference on the result?
And why start this anyway? What’s the reason behind it? Pacquiao has never tested positive, while several boxers like Mosley have tested positive and are not being asked to do the same. Just because he is incredibly good winning in several weight classes? Henry Armstrong is the original incredible weight climber, and he did this decades before performance enhancing drugs was even thought about.
And who is demanding it? A group who in their last fight did not care about cheating in the scales someone who was no more than a lightweight. Just paid $600,000. No respect for their opponent nor the integrity of the sport. It would be OK if the commission demanded this, and not only for this fight but for ALL fights from now on.
This is clearly a ploy by the Mayweathers. A ploy that disrespects Pacquiao’s greatness, the commissions that run the sport, and the sport itself that made them significant in the first place.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:40 am
In law, the burden of proof is on dela hoya, mayweather, et al. It is not for Manny Pacquiao to prove his innocence. With dela hoya’s stature, he should know his law.
This is a matter of principle. Pacquiao is a principled man.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:41 am
DELA HOYA AND THE MAYWEATHERS ARE CONDUCTING TRIAL BY PUBLICITY AGAINST MANNY PACQUIAO!
IN A TRIAL IN COURT, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON DELA HOYA AND THE MAYWEATHERS. THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT MANNY IS GUILTY NOT MANNY PROVING HIS INNOCENCE.
DELA HOYA AND THE MAYWEATHERS WANT MANNY PACQUIAO TO BE CONSIDERED GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. FOOLISH!
December 25th, 2009 at 3:42 am
Pacquiao is right, no need for blood test. Besides, USADA is not accurate after all. Check these out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKHHOE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.steroidreport.com/2008/04/22/us-anti-doping-agency-loses-its-first-doping-case/
December 25th, 2009 at 3:42 am
It is nothing but just total harassment from Mayweather’s camp. Pacquiao cannot be bullied. Enough is enough.
Mayweather won’t have problems giving blood coz it doesn’t really matter if he loses power coz he doesn’t really uses power (he lacks of) to win games. We all know it, he jabs and he runs. Whenever he knocks out anyone its coz they got tired from going after Mayweather and loses their balance when they get hit even with a weak punch. Now drawing blood from Pacquiao whenever wherever and at will will be a total disadvantage for him coz his power combined with speed is what wins his fights.
Mayweather is not insisting on it for a fair fight; he’s insisting on it to take away Pacquiao’s natural power advantage.
So stop scratching your head, you just probably need a dandruff shampoo
December 25th, 2009 at 3:43 am
Did you notice Pacman when he was drawn out of blood by the doctor? He was wearing his shades. Why? Is it a means of overcoming fear? USADA reuires 7 blood tests and in random way. Why 7? Are we not yet in a high tech world? Sources says hair sampling test is more effective than blood and urine tests.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:44 am
dela hoya has a real cheater on his side – shane mosley.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:45 am
Pac agreed to blood testing, but he doesnt agree with how the chicken Mayweathers would like to dictate how it will be done. It may not be really about fear of anything for Pac. It is more of not getting pushed around and unreasonably at that.
Thinkers are doers. The Mayweathers may have cheated their way before so they think Pac is a cheater too.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:47 am
Quentin Reed
Freddie Roach is right. NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN URINE AND BLOOD TEST. USADA is not infallible. Please make an effort to make a research first so that you will not scratch your head next time. Thank you very much.
This came from http://www.steroidreport.com/2008/04/22/us-anti-doping-agency-loses-its-first-doping-case/
Please read if you do not want to click the link. Again thank you.
Track sprinter LaTasha Jenkins is the first athlete to win a doping case against the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). She was charged with an adverse analytical finding after testing positive for the anabolic steroid nandrolone in both Sample A and Sample B in July 2006. She was banned from competition for two years. Last week, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) dropped its appeal of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) decision which exonerated her (”LaTasha Jenkins first athlete to beat the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency on a doping charge,” April 22).
A three-member arbitration panel ruled last December the testing of her sample, given at a meet in Belgium, was not done in accordance with WADA rules that require tests be run by two different technicians.
That broke USADA’s perfect record in front of arbitration panels, which was 35-0 according to the best available statistics.
To the question of Jenkins’ appearing to have won on a technicality, Valparaiso Sports Law Clinic director Michael Straubel had said, “[The arbitrators] set aside the test results because they were not based on reliable lab results.”
She was represented by the Valpo Sports Law Clinic with free legal assistance. The clinic is a pro bono service of Valparaiso University School of Law based on financial need. The Valpo Sports Clinic was founded in 2005; the clinic will have an on-site service for athletes at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.
Professor Michael Straubel, the Director of the Valpo Sports Law Clinic, has previously commented on the unfairness and inconsistency of anti-doping efforts in the context of the Floyd Landis case (”Sports Law Clinic director comments on Landis case,” May 24, 2007).
“It is important to eliminate cheating in sports and enforce anti-doping rules consistently and fairly, but the USADA v. Landis hearing is a rare public airing of the many tensions and growing pains that haunt the doping control process,” said Professor Straubel. “Those tensions include a bureaucracy that needs to prove itself vs. an accused athlete’s need for information to defend himself. The system is designed to be quick vs. the need to be thorough in order to be fair. It is a system based on breach of contract dispute procedures vs. claims and charges that are criminal in their seriousness.”
Professor Straubel added, “However, at the heart of the Landis case are questions about the reliability of a still developing science and anti-doping enforcement using that science. Floyd Landis and his attorneys are challenging a system which presumes the science is reliable and testing is properly done, but which then limits the information available to athletes about that science and testing. This challenge has clearly shown how difficult it is to put the testers to their proofs. Perhaps the larger result of the Landis case will be a system that is more self correcting and reliable.”
December 25th, 2009 at 3:48 am
I Think Pacman doesn’t fear needles, it’s the blood. I also have that kind of fear. It’s more than hemophobia.It weakens me. How much more if 7 blood tests. The Mayweathers are not afraid of needle because they use it in drug addiction.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:52 am
Hey…Who came from a drug user family?! Level of Playing field?! WTF! Floyd is not playing equal. Just look from his fight with Marquez…Sr is an drug addicted bloke and Jr. is insane. If Pac gives in to his demand the next thing Jr will asked is a Blood Test each of every round during the fight. Mr. Reed, Mayweather’s are law breakers and did you hear Pac’s family or himself indicted in any unlawful activities?
December 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am
stupid man!!!read ur last paragraph and see how stupid you contradicted yourself.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Dear Mr. Reed and Official Scorecard Editors:
This quote from a news article in March 2008 might interest you because it proves GBP and the Mayweathers are making a mockery of boxing and its fans:
“Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires,” Schaefer said. “The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one.”
– Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy Promotions chief executive, on defending Shane Mosley from taking drug tests other than those required by the Nevada Athletic Commission for his planned fight against Zab Judah
Here’s the link of the whole AP article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=boxing&id=3311562
As a matter of fairness and in an effort to save boxing, I, in behalf of level-headed boxing fans, appeal that you write a more incisive story on the shenanigans GBP is trying to pull off. Thank you and Happy Holidays.
December 25th, 2009 at 3:57 am
hahahaha. another bullshit of an article produced by the ilk of Mayweather. Bye bye baby. I am Filipino and proud about being one. This is not just about blood testing but the ability of Mayweather to dictate the terms of the fight. It is bullying us- little brown people…But hey, good riddance. I would have liked to see you Gayweather to kiss the floor goodnight or better still have Pacman dismember your head… But you chickened out. Say what you want- all you Mayweather fans— it’s time to say good night and good riddance!!!
December 25th, 2009 at 3:59 am
So you mean that Nevada Athletic Commission is not credible? If so, abolish it. That Commission was able to detect Shane Mosley and Manny Ramirez and many others including the most recently, Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. who was Pacman’s undercard fighter. It’s an insult to the Nevada Athletic Commission. This is professional boxing and not Olympics.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:02 am
its not the testing or whatsoever.pac can submit to that.its gayweather making new rules that insulted team pacquiao.he is just too scared to be beaten badly by pacman!
December 25th, 2009 at 4:04 am
Don’t make simple things complicated. Do the hair sampling test whenever you want it, everyday? OK. no more harrassment. Read Messi and Crank Funky comments. I smell conspiracy here.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:05 am
So the GayWeather clan wants the whole world to know that they are all clean of drugs. Motherfucker all this black GayWeather clan can go to hell. They need to held this fight in Africa, so when Manny kill this bastard the rest of the clan will stay in Africa forever where they belong. Golden Boy promotions paid USADA to do the testing , figure that shit out. Ghetto my ass, your head GayWeather will be Manny’s trophy. Manny kill him without mercy. Show the world filipinos are racists too. There’s no such thing as a Third World Country, motherfuckers and who the hell is the Second World Country or the First World Country. Don’t let this GayWeather clan or any americans pick on any Asian people.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:05 am
its a matter of principle you idiot… who are they to ask more than what the NASC required? pacquiao’s camp even agreed to give blood samples which is more than the commission is asking but for them it is not enough. probably if pacquiao give in to these random blood testing, mayweather will request again that the blood must come from pacquiao’s eyes to make things worst.
its a very good call for arum, you must call…
December 25th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Hey DUmbwriter, your scratching your head beacuse of dundruff, take a bath so you clear up your fishy brain. LET ME RECALL U AGAIN,,, MANNY IS WILLING TO TAKE A BLOOD BUT IN A DIFFERENT AGENCY, Packy side suspected that Gayweather’s slide some millions for USADA to sabotage. AGAIN HE IS WILLING TO BLOOD TEST, Go ahead and take bath and read more news. Dumbhead / Dundruff.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:12 am
TO All the fans who said Manny agreed to test up to 30 days prior to the fight…
Travis Tygart, said his organization has a checklist that it calls the matrix of effectiveness. It includes blood and urine testing, both in and out of competition. Blood tests, Tygart added, detect prohibited substances like human growth hormone, synthetic hemoglobin, designer EPO and blood transfusions, while urine tests do not.
Pacquiao has agreed to have his blood tested three times: in early January, when the fight was expected to be announced, 30 days before the fight and immediately after it. He also agreed to random urine testing.
But Tygart said the 30-day window would still allow an athlete plenty of time to dope with illegal substances not detectable by urine testing.
“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
December 25th, 2009 at 4:13 am
SINCE HIS LOSS TO ERIC MORALES, concerns of blood drawing days before the fight, and not of needles.
pacman’s camp was late to re-apply his boxing license then, so he was blood drawn just days before the fight. he said he felt sluggish going on fight day.
anyway, the mayweathers knew this and.. you know the rest.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:14 am
The Mayweathers are not in the position to decide or dictate terms. They need Pacman more the Pacman needs them. Pacman already agreed to 3 blood tests and the WBO belt is at stake. What does Floyd can offer? nothing!!! This is an unfair treatment. Racism? GBP-USADA conspiracy? What do you think?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:15 am
Mr Q. Reed,
There’s something wrong with your logic in the blood and the needle statement…
Please read your article again…
I think you have a low Q, Mr. Reed!!!
December 25th, 2009 at 4:16 am
AND YES…Manny agreed to take test that WERE NOT RANDOM Drug test’s!!!….NOT RANDOM…meaning YES he will take the test BUT he wants to know what days they are going to test…….
Mayweather has no problems with the RANDOM Test’s so why does Manny?….Even HARD CORE Pac fans need to wake up.
A tablespoon of blood does not make you weak…..
THE VIDEO ABOVE clearly shows Pacquiao “2 WEEKS” before the Hatton fight giving an entire vile of blood..I guess he was soooooo weak that he obliterated Hatton in 2 rounds…..but NOW he is afraid to take a DOPING TEST 30 days prior to the fight? Makes no sense at all……
December 25th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Just make this fight when they already have the balls to face THE PACMAN. Manny is willing that blood be drawn from him right after the fight,drawing blood from him 24hrs before the fight doesn’t make much of a difference. So who’s avoiding who now? *scratches head*
December 25th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Again, the pacman is being made a villain just like when he insisted his right as the one being challenged then by Ricky Hatton. Is it not that it is Floyd Mayweather who is challenging the champion Pacquiao?
Pacquiao is correct not to be pushed around from the venue to so many requests of PBF. Just wait and Manny the pound for pound king will give in exactly to what floyd wants and that is when the case against the father and son is filed. Wait after the elections here, you don’t know the mind of a Filipino. He is the champion and he should be the one giving the demands, don’t you think so?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:20 am
YOU ARE A MORON, AND MUST SLEEP WITH FLOYD’S PICTURE IN YOUR NIGHT TABLE. REASONABLE PEOPLE DON’T AGREE WITH YOUR ABSURD OPNION, AND NO ONE REALLY CARES WHAT MORON LIKE YOU SAYS ANYWAY.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Mr. Dumbass Writer,
Manny is NOT afraid of needles, otherwise how did he get the tattoos? That’s Dumbass Point #1.
Manny is afraid of getting his blood taken a few days BEFORE the fight, claiming (wrongfully) that it weakens him physically. That’s what he said in his post-fight interview after his loss to Morales. He NEVER said he was afraid of needles. That’s Dumbass Point #2.
Lastly, Mr. Dumbass, do your homework first before doing your spins for your boss Golden Boy.
By the way, you’re a dumbass.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:21 am
HEY PEOPLE….Shane Mosley PASSED EVERY drug test that was administered by the NSAC. Had it NOT been for an FBI Raid of the BALCO offices where they found check stubs from Mosley nobody would have ever known that Shane Mosley was a steroid user.
It’s amazing how many of you are allowing your love for a fighter overtake your objectivity.
and btw…
United States Anti-Doping Agency > NSAC any day of the week.
The United States Anti-Doping Agency test athletes from ALL OVER THE WORLD in EVERY SPORT…..
In a world full of steroid users and cheats I don’t see why people are attacking Mayweather for just wanting to show the public that both fighters are clean.
He is willing to undergo the same exact random testing.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:23 am
hey @”Yeah right”…I never said he was afraid of needles…Bob Arum and Freddie Roach said that…..
December 25th, 2009 at 4:23 am
This Quentin Reed is a buffoon. He’s got the analysis and reasoning of a doorknob.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:24 am
@”yeahright”..how was he weakened by the drug test 2 weeks before the Hatton fight?
Do you think Manny looked weak vs Ricky Hatton??
December 25th, 2009 at 4:24 am
It’s obvious that the Mayweather Camp is just trying to gain some sort of advantage over the Pacman Camp with this random olympic-style drug testing issue. It’s a good move, but the Pacman Camp is too smart for this. Why would Pacman agree to that if he knows that he would just give the opponent a clear advantage over him by submitting to their demands? It’s like fighting a fight while you’re handicapped. It’s better for Team Pacquiao to just walk away and find an opponent willing to box fair and square with no bullshit like this.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:27 am
hey @PONKI…..its ironic you say “It’s better for Team Pacquiao to just walk away and find an opponent willing to box fair and square with no bullshit like this.”
so Team Mayweather wanting BOTH fighters to undergo the same test’s equates to not boxing Fair & Square?
What are Mayweathers demands? That a better drug test be taken instead of the typical urine test by the NSAC?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:31 am
hey @ Ric Avelino….Mayweather has given in to EVERY DEMAND from Team Pac…
1) 50/50 split
2) 8oz gloves
3) 10 million dollar fine for every lb over the 147 lb weight limit.
All Mayweather has asked is for “Random” Blood test to be performed. Mayweather has been non difficult in these negotiations. All he has asked for his Random Blood test and Top Rank/Team Pac doesn’t WANT random test…..
they want to be notified when the test will happen. Doesn’t that sound suspicious?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:33 am
give Manny 60% of the purse.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:37 am
this writer is pro gayweather. stupid analysis!
December 25th, 2009 at 4:38 am
You have a knack on how you twist your syle of writing.Controlled balance stupidity.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:38 am
just a thought..any substance (especially steroids) introduced to the body will have a positive manifestation if lab exams will be conducted right after the fight..in this case manny pacquiao agrees to comply to such examination right after his fight.. so what’s the difference between a pre and post examination or drug testings? difinitely none.. you can ask a doctor if you like.. morons and ignorant will insist that there’s a difference.. one thing more tattooing is basically different from blood extraction.. tattooing is just superficial while blood extraction is done intravenously.. capillary puncture won’t do..
December 25th, 2009 at 4:39 am
hey @ ALLANSKI….how am I pro Mayweather when I mentioned FACTUAL/Contradictory statements from Top Rank/Bob Arum & freddie roach….
those FACTUAL quotes can’t be disputed
December 25th, 2009 at 4:40 am
Stryfee…..tell me why in the video above Pac got blood drawn 2 weeks before the Hatton fight & why did he look soooooo strong?…
I thought drawing blood so close to the fight makes him weak?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:41 am
Missing the point only happens when the person do not understand the issue.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:42 am
The scareweathers are afraid of the ghost they created. It was scareweather sr. who first brought this up and they blew this thing out of proportions mainly to duck manny for good.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:42 am
What point?… I don’t see the big deal with BOTH fighters having to subject themselves to the SAME TEST?
Mayweather is more than willing to give blood randomly leading up to the fight. Why will drawing blood make Pac weak but not Mayweather?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:44 am
well,everybody is asking why this writer is favoring the mayweather and the Olden DOg PRomotion,simpy because this writeris in their payroll, pure and simple fact that everybody can understand.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:46 am
A polypeptide hormone secreted by the anterior lobe of the pituitary gland that promotes growth of the body, especially by stimulating release of somatomedin, and that influences the metabolism of proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids. Also called HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES, somatotropic hormone, Also called somatotropin.
TO THE WRITER:
HGH is a natural substance secreted by pituitary gland. Are you saying that there should be no HGH to be found in his blood? Then recommend all boxers to remove all their pituitary glands….as simple as that…
December 25th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Hey @Domingo….
If Mayweather was accused of being on PED’s and he refused to take Random Test would you be an advocate for him as well? Would you support Maywather in his decision to AVOID the random tests?
Please let me know
December 25th, 2009 at 4:48 am
hey @ boxer….they test for ABNORMAL LEVELS/ High Levels of HGH….duh!!
Why are you attempting to justify this?
LOL@Then recommend all boxers to remove all their pituitary glands
Wow ….just wow
December 25th, 2009 at 4:48 am
Boxing is governed by a body this body takes everything seriously to safeguard the honor of said sport.Now who the hell is gaymoney to change all of these. and some super stupid people are supporting it? huh?I REST MY CASE . THIS GAY IS WORST THAN I THOUGHT.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:48 am
kindly explain the difference of blood test results before and immediately after the fight Mr. Dumbass writer and is it true that Team Pacquiao demanded for a $10M penalty if the results came out clean but then Team Mayweather refused? Kindly enlighten us please Mr. Dumbass writer
December 25th, 2009 at 4:50 am
Man @ANDSO…..the random test’s are to ensure that no foul play is going on during training, which is the time a person could use PED’s. What don’t you get.
Are you seriously validating all of Top Ranks & Freddie Roaches excuses?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:50 am
What’s the big deal? It’s not a big deal to you if a stranger asks you to say 1,2,3,4,5 and he would do the same? Why would you? What’s the point? He is going to do the same thing. So you would just do it? Really?
December 25th, 2009 at 4:53 am
Team Mayweather is playing there own mind games for making an excuses to get out of his coming fight with Manny,before making an argument with random testing why they do not sign the aggrement first, coz only the boxing fans there making a foolish debate…
December 25th, 2009 at 4:55 am
stupid article..why’d you post a video only to silence the part where it said pacquiao has always been doing this to protect himself from false accusations.. writer is clearly under the mayweathers payroll. waste of time!
December 25th, 2009 at 4:56 am
HEY MR. REED Wat about this quote from a news article in March 2008 might interest you because it proves GBP and the Mayweathers are making a mockery of boxing and its fans:
“Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires,” Schaefer said. “The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one.”
– Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy Promotions chief executive, on defending Shane Mosley from taking drug tests other than those required by the Nevada Athletic Commission for his planned fight against Zab Judah
Here’s the link of the whole AP article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=boxing&id=3311562
December 25th, 2009 at 4:57 am
@JohnL…..lol. Are you serious? THEY NEVER SAID THAT ON 24/7
December 25th, 2009 at 4:57 am
quentin reed- a new boxing writer moron.. remember not to read his posts again guys.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:58 am
are you retarded? Pacman agreed to the testing but not under USADA, why? because they are in connection with the GBP! u base your accusations on mayweather sr’s comments. what credibility does he have other than being a criminal and a drug user? you might argue, he’s the best trainer. best trainer my ass! has he been nominated as trainer of the year yet? has he won it?
December 25th, 2009 at 5:01 am
so the PACMAN would use PEDs for training and not use it during the fight? *scratches head*
December 25th, 2009 at 5:03 am
hey KKK…..I remember that article. Good find
in defense of Schaefer…this article about Judah & Mosley was written March 25, 2008
this “‘Sugar’ Shane Mosley told grand jury of EPO use” article was written December 3rd 2008
Shane was lying to the public and media for over 5 years about his EPO/HGH/Steroid use…so of course Schaefer would defend his fighter at that time…..Shane lied to everyone
The Grand Jury INFO wasn’t leaked until after Schaefer made those statements……Schaefer just like EVERYONE else was not aware of Mosley’s Grand Jury Testimoy and the eventual truth about Mosley’s involvement with BALCO!!
Read more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2008/12/02/2008-12-02_sugar_shane_mosley_told_grand_jury_of_ep.html#ixzz0afEBVF6D/url
December 25th, 2009 at 5:06 am
ANDSO…the PED’s are used DURING training to gain power, speed, endurance, & muscle mass. Once it is 2 weeks before the fighter ANY fighters have already peaked and are physically ready to fight. What can’t you understand about that?
IF MANNY HAS NOTHING TO HIDE…WHY DOESN’T HE WANT TO DO “RANDOM” TESTING?
December 25th, 2009 at 5:07 am
JohnL…you are sounding more like a Pacquiao Fanatic than a REAL Boxing fan. It’s quite pathetic. No fighter is BIGGER THAN THE SPORT!
December 25th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Last part of Reed’s article:
Arum said the issue was with the blood, not the needles.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that makes sense now..NEEDLES…..ahhhhh I understand now..He is afraid of NEEDLES….fearful of them to the highest degree.
——–
LOL. What contradiction. Shows how much brain this guy has
December 25th, 2009 at 5:16 am
@ Reed Sucks….then why is he getting his blood drawn 2 weeks before the Hatton fight?
December 25th, 2009 at 5:17 am
This writer fails to realize that pacquiao is Filipino, and in the Philippines, noone cares about steroids and health supplements. I cant really explain but whatever…Pacquiao’s never tested positive and all this crap is totally unfair.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:17 am
thank you guys for letting me realize i’m a moron. i didn’t know that a blood test immediately after the fight is as accurate taken before the fight. i didn’t know that manny is not afraid of one inch diameter needle or 5,000 cc blood sucking – he’s just countering the mind games of floyd which is very obvious. i didn’t know that my lord floyd is using it as a scape goat to cancel the fight. now i know that my lord floyd is evading fighters that are dangerous to his “0″
December 25th, 2009 at 5:17 am
LOL! I FORGOT MOSLEY IS UNDER GOLDEN BOY. WHO FOUND OUT HE’S ON STEROID THEN??
December 25th, 2009 at 5:18 am
is he afraid of blood or the needles?
In the VIDEO ABOVE..he does not appear to be nervous or fearful about needles. Why are you guys making up lame excuses?
December 25th, 2009 at 5:19 am
@Sandman…..of course he hasn’t tested positive. He has never submitted a blood sample to test for steroids…only urine samples. DUH!
December 25th, 2009 at 5:20 am
KKK….Mosley is a cheat I agree. I cant vouch for that guy.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Reuvien, what is the reason Manny Pacquiao doesn’t want RANDOM Drug testing but would be ok with scheduled drug testing?
Please enlighten me
December 25th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Ok Ok Ok, Pacquiao got away with the NEEDLE (Tattoo) because his phobia is with the BLOOD. May I ask everyone what kind of sport are we talking about? When Pacquiao fought Morales the 1st time I think he have lost so many blood (you can see it in his face).
December 25th, 2009 at 5:26 am
They should just both agree to the testing right after & not before the fight. But, i really do not think this would be a nice idea because at the end of the fight scareweather jr. will be out of blood coz he will be bleeding profusely all throughout the fight. lol
December 25th, 2009 at 5:26 am
@Reed
(Reply to post number 83)
Why don’t you clarify your contradictory comment (to your quoted comment by Arum) at the end of your article first?
(Reply to post 87)
In the video above, he does look like someone who is nervous to me – hence the shades. He alreay took it off awhile ago. Anyway, why not push for hair samples if the endstate is to find out if someone is doping or not??
December 25th, 2009 at 5:29 am
Manny will agree to random testing if Gayweather clan together with Schaeffer, Tygert and Goden Alloy to fight Manny simultaneously on the ring, we’ll see who are the real cheaters after manny lash out his fury to these weaklings. Putang Ina minyo mga bakling!!
December 25th, 2009 at 5:29 am
# Oinky,
To answer your question.. Just think about a girl who is afraid of bloodletting and faints at the sight of it but has no qualms seeing her period or changing her pads during that time…
December 25th, 2009 at 5:34 am
enough of the arguments and just do the hair test!
mr dandruff writer, pacman not giving in to gayweather’s demands is a matter of principle. pacman is the champ, the #1 P4P so he should dictate the terms not some chicken shit.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Mr. REED can u explain the cased between USADA and LaTasha Jenkins?
December 25th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Pacman’s not afraid on needles (the dude got several tatoos). The reason he refused to do the USADA blood testing is simply because of principles. Pacman’s not gonna be bullied by Mayweather. He already agreed to blood testing but on his OWN TERMS & not Mayweather’s even though he DOESN’T have to. Blood test immediately after the fight is enough to detect if PACMAN’s on drugs or not.
I say GAYWEATHER’s just looking for excuse to avoid getting BEAT UP by PACMAN. HISTORY proves GAYWEATHER avoiding FIGHTERS that can potentially DAMAGE his UGLY FACE.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:47 am
YO! THE NSAC STEP-IN.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:49 am
WHAT’S AMATEUR DRUG TESTING GOT TO DO WITH PROFESSIONAL BOXING??? LIKE ARUM SAID HE WANTS A WELL RECOGNIZED TESTING AGENCY LIKE THE ONE THEY USED FOR NFL,NBA AND BASEBALL.
IF I WERE MANNY, I WILL TOTALLY DROP THIS FIGHT AND LET MAYWEATHER LIKE (JUDAS) BE DAMNED FOR ALL TIME IN BOXING.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:51 am
I smell a lot of balut eggs now..
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/24/nevada-commission-could-breath-life-into-mayweather-paquiao-talk/
December 25th, 2009 at 6:03 am
The boxing community rightnow cant just understand why the Pacman is doing all of this unusual stuff. Lets segregate it: Manny Pacquiao, current P4P king, current IBO/ring magazine junior welterweight champion, current WBO welterweight champion of the world, seventh world titles in as much as seven diffrent weight divisions, 2008-2009 fighter of the year, Time magazine man of the year, 2008-2009 athlet of the year, best KO of the year with Hatton (rnd 2), ranked # 13 of the top 25 most influencial people of the world, endorser of nike etc.,local singer and artist(WAPAKMAN now showing),charity movements,and many more….. How about Flambouyant Floyd Jr? Almost all of his acheivements are FORMER! Former five division world champion, fomer P4P champion, undefeated thru cherry picking and known for ducking of opponents, cheating thru disobedience of contracted rules (coming in overweight for advantage purposes), all time braggart/loudmouth athlet of the world,current “O” tilte, and many more.
Now you know why the PACMAN is doing this unusal things?: Conclusion, Manny Pacquiao just want to DICTATE all the terms because he has EVERYTHING and Money Mayweather has absolutely NOTHING at all.. All the mayweathers do is to ENVY and ACCUSE on all the Pacman’s accomplishments….
December 25th, 2009 at 6:07 am
DE LA HOYA IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET BACK AT MANNY FOR HIS CASH ADVANCES AND FF-UP LOSSES, HIMSELF AND GBP BOXERS TO THE PACMAN. WHY SO SUDDENLY bs PFM IS TALKING FAIRNESS AND EVEN-PLAYING FIELD, IT WAS ONLY LAST SEPT WHEN CAME OVERWEIGHT AGAINST JMM WHO WAS NOT FAIRLY PROTECTED BY DLHOYA/GBP. IF THE WORTSWEATHER FAMILY HAS ANY OATA OF SALT OF REALITY THEY FIGHT NOW OR NEVER!
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IF THE WORSTWEATHERS ARE A FAM
December 25th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Pac is not afraid of needles neither the “labaha” (without anesthesia) that used in his circumcision during his manhood passage. Philippines are the real home of the brave. I wonder if Floyd have undergone such manhood passage. Is he man enough? Mike Tyson is a small guy demolishing big heavyweights and his opponents never raised an issue about steroids. The reason was they were not afraid of this beast because they are warriors of men. Not a hype chicken.
December 25th, 2009 at 7:54 am
wow! what a desperate and disgraceful move from the mayweather and goldenboy camp!!! theyre so cheap! hahahaha! is PBF and Golden Boy are what we so called all time great fighters? that blood sucking antic is absurd man in any angles! hahahaha! are the ignorant people saying that the NSAC(for pro boxer) who is a professional in their field for 40 years are incapable and USADA(for amateur boxers) is better? its like a doctor vs a fate healer man!!! mayweather and goldenboy clans are so very cheap! jealousy and pure insecurity are the true answers man!
December 25th, 2009 at 7:59 am
So funny to see Dumb REED consistently answered all the comments, insisting on his dumb premises. But after francow’s comment 104, reminding him that he can be sued for his position on his writing, The DUMB suddenly becomes MUTE, now he is close to being a disabled head scratcher. PITY the fool.
December 25th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Get your argements straight, Reed. Why are you bringing up the argument PACMAN agreed to take blood samples two weeks before fighting Hatton? So? PacMan only inhibition in the blood sample is not to take it THE DAY before the fight. Roach is saying the’ll be okay with at least 5 days before the figth. And what’s wrong with taking the blood samples IMMEDIATELY during the fight?? Floyd is just doing mind game with the PacMan, but he not going to bully the PacMan to submitting to his whims.
Floyd agreed to what?? 50/50 split, weight at 147 lbs and an 8 oz gloves?? So, how does Floyd want to fight PacMan at WELTERWEIGHT?
December 25th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Hey Guys Pacman is willing to give blood after the Fight. It will give the same result as giving it b4 fight night! The Mayweathers and GBP are all Morons. They’re simply afraid of Manny. Its as simple as that.
December 25th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Mr. Reed is paid by the Mayweathers and so are the handful of scribes in the business to write something in their favor. Bunch of Craps.
December 25th, 2009 at 8:47 am
hi mr. reed,
reading this thread i have noticed that you are only picking the points that you can defend and attack. I would like you to clarify the following:
1. Doing the testing after the fight:
Would this be any different as taking it right before the fight? I’m sure that if Pacquiao took something, this would come out in the test, right?
2. How about that hair test that the people commenting are saying? Wouldn’t this be a better option as it requires no drawing of blood?
I hope you can answer these questions and thank you for your time sir.
December 25th, 2009 at 8:50 am
boxing is different sports than others, in basketball you have collide with other bodies but you dont punch them to win, same in other like baseball, cyling, NFL. boxing sport, test your indurance by banging your body to your opponent and winning by knocking it down by your power punch. not all people have the same though, idea, belief or principle. Mr. Mayweather if you think extracting blood wont affect you thats goood, but Mr. Paquaio have different thinking and belief, idea and principle also.
People like Mr.Mayweather have always doubt in their minds and their capability. They say they are the great, they are very skillfull, they are 2,3,4,5,6th dimentional name it and they have it, but still in this capacity that they have, doubt is still in their minds. They dont have satisfaction,I bet, if pacquiao agree to blood testing they will find again an alibi and excuses.
Mr. Mayweather if you have doubt in the agency of the sports you belong (boxing) and you don’t respect the organization handling this sports, quit boxing and find other sports where you can dictate the system.
If you are true warior in this sports face all your opponent if you dont want pacquiao beacause you affraid or whatever, challenge Mosley, Berto, Palvik and other guys same equal to your size. In this case you dont have any excusses to make.
December 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Pacquaio and Roach claim that it would take Manny four days to a week to recover from a drug test. If USADA conduct 8 testings, that would be equal to 2 months that Pacquiao would feel sluggish during the training and on the day of the fight. Do you think Pacquiao will agree to the random drug test just to loose? Mayweather is finding another way to get an upper hand because he failed to get a wiggle room in the weight issue
December 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Mayweather is a cheat not Pacquiao. He cheated Marquez when he came to the ring 2 lbs over weight. What does cheaters think? Continue to cheat and accuses somebody else of being a cheater. Obviously, Mayweather was thinking of cheating Pacquiao by asking a wiggle room for the weight. Since he will be fined $10 million if he comes over weight, he demanded Pacquiao’s blood as he know blood test can ruin Pacquiao’s training and performance
December 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Sorry guys I’m just too dumb and stupid not to extract the validity of The Great Pacquiao’s concern…. Stupid at the highest level. It’s my bad.
December 25th, 2009 at 9:25 am
this article sucks!..obviously this writer wants attention!..this is nonsense article!…It is now Christmas eve and word has it Bob Arum has given you a deadline til the end of the day to accept the terms of Manny Pacquiao to make what is being considered the richest fight in history. And the reason for it is because you have requested that Mr Pacquiao take random Olympic styled drug test administered by the USADA. Where did this come from? Mr. Mayweather I have never thought Manny Pacquiao for one second has taken steriods to gain the success he has. In fact, and I don’t like to brag, but I have laced them up once or twice so I would THINK I know a little something about boxing. And I have a friend who is a personal trainer who takes HGH as well as steroids and I can tell you right now, this guy wouldn’t stand a chance in a boxing ring as a result. I don’t know any steroid using boxers who have gained an advantage in the ring from using steroids and HGH. I am not a rocket scientist, but I am pretty sure steroids don’t make a fighter a better boxer or allows them to take a punch on the chin better. I believe it was you who bragged that Manny Pacquiao was easy work. Now you are using ALLEDGED steroid use as a wedge issue. Need I remind you that Juan Manual Marquez came up from 120 and prior to his fight with you, knocked out the likes of Juan Diaz, Casamayor who are neither pushovers. Yet you never made a case against him. Does the fact that he was able to stop fighters you couldn’t or stopped fighters sooner than you could send a chill up your spine? And since when did the testing guidelines of the NSAC not meet your satisfaction in all of your previous fights that you decided to bring in an organization that only deals with amateurs? While no boxing fan is a fan of cheaters, and would not like the fact that Mr Pacquiao bent the rules in order to gain an unfair advantage, was it not YOU who came over the weight limit in your last fight also refusing to allow yourself to be weight fight night? Was it not you who forced Ricky Hatton to come up to fight at a weight even he said he had no business fighting at when he visited that weight class once before? You are no stranger to trying to gain unfair advantages Mr Mayweather, it I believe you have tried to gain an unfair advantage as far as public opinion is concerned while casting doubt on Manny Pacquiao while failing to disclose the fact that this REALLY didn’t become an issue until it was stated for every pound you come in over the 147 limit you would be fined $10 million. With the 35% tax bracket you are in on top of the money you owe Al Haymon and Golden Boy Promotions, you couldnt dare risk coming in at the agreed upon weight. And because of your inability to yourself fight with a level playing field, you are trying to turn the public against Mr Pacquaio by accusing him of something that originated from…..your father. But the clock is ticking Mr Mayweather. Your golden goose is about to fly the coop and your options for big money fights means you are now faced with the possibility of REALISTICALLY risking that undefeated record against someone who can take it.
December 25th, 2009 at 9:38 am
This fight was never going to happen because Floyd was going to come up with every excuse possible to get out of it. He finally got out of it and will also lose alot of money from the fight AND the lawsuit. Bernard Hopkins, who is a partner in GBP, even said back in November that this fight was never going to happen. That’s insider knowledge about how much of a p ussy Floyd is.
December 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Just make this fight when they already have the balls to face THE PACMAN. Manny is willing that blood be drawn from him right after the fight,drawing blood from him 24hrs before the fight doesn’t make much of a difference. So who’s avoiding who now? *scratches head*, “again and angain and again”
December 25th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Quentin Reed… shut the hell up and get the real score here!!! No issue with needles, no issue with randomness of the tests, no issue with who will conduct the tests… these are all plain and simple posturing!!! pacquiao and arum dont wanna give in to mayweather’s demands thats it! GBP and scareweather wants to be the one dictating everything… DAMN FUCKING EGOS
December 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Although I do agree with sportsmanship and just flat out taking the random tests, I have to point out that we are relying on the media to tell us why Pacquiao does not agree with taking random blood tests. Another thing is that blood giving truly does make you feel weak, and speaking of the 12 week or however long week training schedule that Roach wanted, giving up time because of a blood test is significant, especially when he calls for more time for a fight like this. Also say Pacquiao did take “steroids” or “human growth hormones”, he could stop using leading up to the fight, test negative for any performance enhancing drugs, and show up to the fight, lose (to what people believed would be his hardest fight), and get one hell of a payday to pay for his campaign as congressman. That would be an easier route, but no. It could be that he knows how essential this 12 week regime would be, and random blood testing could sabotage his whole work routine. Ever give blood, and work out immediately after?
December 25th, 2009 at 11:19 am
MANNY IS NOT AFRAID OF NEEDLES IN FACT HE GOT A TATTOO RECENTLY ON HIS ARMS. THE REASON HE DONT WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE IT WEAKENS HIM. YOU ALSO HAVE TO RESPECT MANNYS DECISION NOT ONLY GAYWEATHER.
WHEN THE DOCTOR TOOK SOME BLOOD ON MY ARMS IT TOOK SO MANY DAYS TO SUBSIDE THE PAIN AND THAT IS NORMAL. MANNY KNOWS HIS BODY MORE THAN WE DO.
THESE MAYWEATHER CAMP ARE JUST A BUNCH OF LOSERS AND WHINNERS. IF HE IS A FIGHTER JUST FIGHT THE BEST AND NOT PUTTING SO MANY EXCUSES. NO WONDER YOU WILL NEVER BE GOOD AS MANNY.
December 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
dont worry guys, its just part of the script. All the bullsh1t that the Fraudweathers make, its all part in t he script of Pacquiao’s all time best boxer in the world story, because the bottom of all this is Fraudweather Jr. will be embarrased for after the fight for the Pacman will emerge as the victor, not the coward Fraudweather…
December 25th, 2009 at 11:44 am
U make urself very funny REED , go back to school.
December 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am
this is totally rubbish!!! the moron writer writes a totally stupid article… wrong facts… what is with the needle??? Filipinos eat needles like fries. BUt this monkey face gay run the Boston marathon.
I see fear in the eyes of the gayweathers!
December 25th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
this is stupid… pacquaiao agreed the blood tests 30days before the fight and after the fight.. but the blood tests schedule the mayweathers is asking should not be the day before the fight.. anyone would disagree with this proposal. and also the commission running the drug tests for athletes are in jeopardy.. if manny will agree with this.. the commission will be dissolved because the results it is producing will not be a basis anyway.. pacquiao is just pushed around by the mayweathers.. so enough is enough.. see you in the court.
December 25th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Tang-ina mo ulol gago kang pakshet ka tanga! =P
December 25th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
mayweather team scared and dont want to fight pacquiao they’re searching pacman weakness..so they have reason to avoid fight this is bullshit happening in boxing history ..stop promoting this fight because is useless only one side want to fight one side dont want to fight..all boxing fan very upset
December 25th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Why don’t we test first who has balls or not? then we do the blood test hahaha…
December 25th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
What is the difference between testing a day before the fight and one immediately after the fight if both the result will come out after the fight has been done? Nothing! So what’s the problem with floydie? Got chucken heart?
December 25th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
mayweather doesnt agreed but it is his request to do the blood test. He is the one requesting it therefore you dont have to say he agreed on the requirements because he is the one requiring it!
December 25th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I do phlebotomy as part of my job for more than 25 years. I can tell you a lot about big guys with tats all over their body being scared of “blood draw”. It’s normal to see patients feeling weak and even disturbed right after giving blood samples no matter how little. Pacquiao may be one of them. If so, he must be protecting himself as he may not be able to concentrate in training and in fighting. I think one random test for HGH within 30 days of fight and hair steroid test for drug history is enough.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
First of all why manny must submit himself to this shit,crap demands.He has nothing to prove in the first place,and what does mayweathers and GBP have to ask such a stupid test,they dont even have a single proof to justify such a crap.People should be more sensible rather than just jump into the conclusion.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Before you ask, why “Manny can’t just give his blood…”
Ask first, “Why Floyd Jr. can’t just fight this little fighter that he thinks he can beat easily with or without steroids?”
Mayweathers are Coward…
And they know, Manny will erase that zero record of Floyds.
December 25th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
MR. QUENTIN REED….ARE YOU OF THE SAME MISSING LINK WITH THE MAYWEATHERS….
WHY KEEP SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD?
GO TAKE A DAILY BATH AND USE ANTI-DANDRUFF SHAMPOO SO WON’T BE SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD…
AND BTW IF EVER THE FIGHTS PUSH THRU….YOU CAN DO A LOT OF HEAD SCRATCHING ONCE MANNY PACQUIAO PUTS FLOYD UNCONSCIOUS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE…BAANG! KABOOM! THERE GOES YOUR FLOYD…
HAPPY NEW YEAR BUDDY! PEACE ON EARTH TOO!
December 25th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
it was to a large degree a CULTURAL misunderstanding on the pacquiao’s part.
pacquaio & company SHOULD HAVE FILED a law suit IMMEDIATELY against the mayweathers right after their very first statements to the media about alleged steroids use by pacquaio. because of the INACTION on pacquiao’s part, these allegations have now taken a life of their own, as this is just (sadly!) part of the american culture today. as a consequence thereof, the mayweathers have taken advantage of this pacquiao inaction in the on-going negotiations for their proposed fight. and it seems they’ve been successful in selling the crap to media, you for one
EXAMPLE:
here in america, let us say that out of the goodness of your heart and being just plain neighborly, you allow the next-door-neighbor to park his car on a part of your property continuously for five (5) years –and you do not charge any rent; after said five years, that neighbor can then LEGALLY! annex that part of your property where he has parked his car the past five years as his own property by filing a case in court. that is (simply) american law!
very few non-americans know this, and 99% of all orientals very much less appreciate the implications of such a law, and that is including pacquiao and the people around him.
UNFORTUNATELY also, for most filipinos, taxing the judicial system by suing someone just because he is, for lack of a better term, a nincompoop like mayweather sr. is, just does not wash well. probably more specially of that filipino is a professional fighter in the macho world of boxing. and so now, sadly, the filipino has been boxed into a corner quite unfairly by the mayweathers and the american media, who now begins to insist (insinuate) that if pacquaio does not agree to blood-letting, then he must be guilty of using banned substances.
well then so be it. its just a pity that boxing loses big time. yet again.
juniedv
December 25th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
whats the problem with the test? OMG! Man you’re not doing your homework. PAC DON’T have problem with the test, Pac just don’t want it so close to the fight because it will weaknen him (exactly what Gayweather want because he is freaking coward to PAC). They can do the test a week before (as FR suggest) and immediately right after the fight. Come on man…. hahahaha….
December 25th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
GBP and the Mayweather are playing games. Schaeffer didnt even let Mosley do the test. And you didnt mention the test immediately right after the fight which Manny says he will do plus urine sample at any time. Let NSAC decide what needs to be done and I’m sure Manny will agree regardless of what type of test they will want to do. He’s just pissed off at what GBP and the Mayweathers wanted to do. Looks like they are really afraid of the LITTLE MAN.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
it has something to do with the psychological effect (for pacquiao) when giving out blood… but anyway, pacman agreed to have a blood test after the fight so i think it does not matter because the result will not change… it’s kind of frustrating because mayweather camp & golden boy promotions are making a lot of issues not to make this fight happen… no doubt, mayweather is scared of pacman… i thought it was an easy fight for him? but there a lot of excuses going on… just in case the fight goes on, it’s all about pacquiao because he is mentally ready while mayweather has a lot of reasons not to continue the fight
December 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
This is a matter of principle. If you allowed anyone to dictate what they want on you (knowing fully well that they just want to screw you),then you are a less human being. Last year, Golden Boy Promotion did not allowed Moseley to take the drug test. So, why are they demanding Manny to take the drug test which they refused to comply? Be a man of principle. If not,you will be miserable for the rest of your life.
December 25th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
GOLDEN BOYS DONT FOLLOW ANY GOLDEN RULE. REED JUST SLEPT WITH SENIOR LAST NIGHT.
December 26th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Hey! Quentin Reed , this is a very,very good article that you wrote. One of the best that I have read in a long time. Obviously, the negative comments that people are making is an attempt to degrade and dehumanize you.Ignore them ! Your article is one of the best that I have read in quite some time and you make some very good and valid points !
December 26th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Hey Quentin Reed this is a very good article that you wrote it makes a lot of common sense and has some excellent points. Obviously, the animalistic and negative comments that people are making about you is an attempt to degrade and dehumanize you because you wrote such a great article. Ignore the negative comments this article is very good and logical !
December 26th, 2009 at 1:42 am
the best to settle the issue is the court. If you are really sure of one thing then let the court decide so everyone will know the TRUTH.
December 26th, 2009 at 3:34 am
its not the needle that pac dosent like its the timing of blood extraction. it will lossen his power. just like samson in the bible where his power comes from his hair.pac power loses if blood will be forcibly extracted by needle that is his contention and you can not take that away from him. golden boy has an ax to grind with thats why he challenge pac to a fight at 147lb but he was humillated.
December 26th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Manny thinks the Wicked Witch of the West is in them needles.
December 26th, 2009 at 6:21 am
IF YOUR OPPONENT SAYS SO.. WOULD YOU COMPLY??? EVEN IF OUTSIDE THE RULES???… THEN YOU ARE A FOKN IDIOT!!! YOU JUST CONCEDE TO YOUR OPPONENT ALREADY… THATS THE GAME THEY ARE PLAYING RIGHT NOW… I DONT KNOW WHY A LOT OF WRITERS INCLUDING THIS. ARE SO GULLIBLE
December 26th, 2009 at 7:06 am
The reason why Manny and Roach doesn’t want blood testing during the training is because it disrupts it. if ur an athelete who trains 8 hours a day plus a few hours of planning the fight, follow strict schedule of sleeping from 8pm til 5am, imagine USADA knocking on your door and waking you up for blood testing at 12mn!!! do you think you’ll still be able continue sleeping after that? would you still be able to take your 1 hour morning run and continue training all throughout the day. the issue here is not the blood testing but the ulterior motives why Mayweather’s camp wants it. they have tried to duck Manny ever since they felt that he’s out to get PBF. first, they scheduled an early fight hoping that PAC won’t agree, then the money split, weight, and glove size which all PAC agreed upon to. now they would want to HIRE a third party drug testing company to take blood samples at any time they want? that is very ridiculous!! What is WBO doing in this matter? WBC Pres. Jose Sulayman said in his recent interview “I believe that I am not informed of the matter reason for this interview, as I do not understand the meaning of outside agencies ,,,,,,, but if the meaning is to bring any other authority different than the State Commission or the corresponding sanctioning body, the WBC would never accept it as we are the organization certifying our world titles and whoever wants to fight for a WBC title, he has to stand by our rules and regulations.” If the fight will be sanctioned by WBC Mayweather will have no more excuses to avoid this fight. It is very clear that Mayweather is chickening his way out of danger. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the Greatest Coward and Disgrace in Boxing History! That’s Gayweather for you all!!…
December 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am
the author is moron.
December 26th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
the author(quentin reed) is a dumb ass.,fucking dumb ass.if pacquiao is afraid of needles,then why did pac agree to let his blood examine after the fight?some other athletes complaining for these type of drug test coz it weakens them..click this link for the athletes quotes..http://www.examiner.com/x-10947-Indianapolis-Fight-Sports-Examiner~y2009m12d25-Fairplay-Propaganda-Fear-Racism-Examining-the-FACTS-regarding-Mayweathers-steroids-accusations
December 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
You Quentin “DUMB” Reed,
Please stop using these blood testing argument in protecting MoneyMay. Save your face! think before you write. You are making it appear that Floyd Jr is ducking Pacquiao.
Everybody knows that there is NO DIFFERENCE between blood testing a day before the fight and one immediately after the fight (in the locker room).
Please stop all these nonsense already.
MoneyMay is not afraid of Pacquiao PERIOD!!!
December 28th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Just wondering, how many of the commenters here are from a certain little Island that happens to be a step below Thailand in international reputation?
December 28th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Hey @ Sanji what in the hell does this mean ..”The reason why Manny and Roach doesn’t want blood testing during the training is because it disrupts it. if ur an athelete who trains 8 hours a day plus a few hours of planning the fight, follow strict schedule of sleeping from 8pm til 5am, imagine USADA knocking on your door and waking you up for blood testing at 12mn!!!”
^^^^^^^LMAO^^^^^^^^
So Manny can shoot an entire movie during training camp but he cant draw a little blood?
December 28th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
@ DAN THE MAN…..what do you expect from a bunch of guys who just started watching boxing 3 years ago?
December 29th, 2009 at 5:46 am
To DanTheMan and Quentin “Dumb” Reed
Remember…Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
Its dangerous to play racism. Please be careful.
December 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
(from n of the comments) …I think you’re missing the whole point. Manny isnt afraid of needles. Remember he never got those tattoos a day before any of his fights. He made it clear that he’s willing to have the drug test except the day before the fight. Random testing can include the day before the fight. That’s all he’s asking for. Now isn’t that too simple to understand? *!@ scratch Your head writer!@#
January 8th, 2010 at 4:15 am
…period! If u aint taking steroids just take the fucking test! If manny dont want his name and legacy ruined just take the fucking test! I wuld prove floyd wrong and take the test right? unless?????? Im takin steroids??????????? Manny is taking steroids that urine test cant detect for all you dumb ass pacman dick riders!!!!!!
January 8th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Hmn… Mr. Writer, you sound very fishy in your article, biased and not objective.
1. Blood was taken 2wks before Pacman’s fight… 2WEEKS, not 2 DAYS or 1 DAY or Weight-In.
2. Random testing means –>>RAMDOM! Any day, even the day of the fight, get it? That is why Pacman does not want random, get it again?
3. What is the difference in taking the blood samples right after the fight or let’s say ramdomly, 1 day before the fight? Wont you detect your PEDS on both? Well, for Pacman, he will be waek if blood is taken from him a day before the fight. This is what Junior knows..hehehe.
4. So why did not ask JMM for the same RANDOM test before they fight? Because Junior is AFRAID of Pacman..!!
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